Deanh Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I'd skip the container...just put it straight in the toilet, because if you eat McD's, it won't take long and that's where it will be anyway! weakness...Fish filets..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 weakness...Fish filets..... Bacon Habanero Ranch is pretty darn good. And they have the best sweet tea...and the raspberry sweet tea is pretty tasty as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillSD Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 FYI...Limited slip is now N/A, replaced by electronic locking only... Damn, our sales of clutch packs and friction modifier will plummet. Ooooh that smell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhorse Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) A $2K to $3K increase of similiarly equipped vehicles...that doesn't take into consideration the incentives will be at least 3 to 4 thousand dollars less than the 2014...that means the opening transaction price is going up 4 to 7 THOUSAND dollars. Edited August 7, 2014 by ironhorse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 A $2K to $3K increase of similiarly equipped vehicles...that doesn't take into consideration the incentives will be at least 3 to 4 thousand dollars less than the 2014...that means the opening transaction price is going up 4 to 7 THOUSAND dollars. ah, my evil twin has joined the party...lol....Im guessing you were a touch perturbed as well Ironhorse?....public reation will be interesting, if Ram or GM undercuts the F-150 similarly equipped by 4 -5000 bucks results will be curious...theres brand loyal to an extent, then $ talk... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 A $2K to $3K increase of similiarly equipped vehicles...that doesn't take into consideration the incentives will be at least 3 to 4 thousand dollars less than the 2014...that means the opening transaction price is going up 4 to 7 THOUSAND dollars. well that said I just pulled incentives on a 2014, they arent anything to write home about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhorse Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Chevy's incentives are about $1,000 to $1,500 more than a comprable Ford...Dodge is over 2K more. That potentially would put the Ford in some configurations at a $9 thousand dollar price disadvantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) Chevy's incentives are about $1,000 to $1,500 more than a comprable Ford...Dodge is over 2K more. That potentially would put the Ford in some configurations at a $9 thousand dollar price disadvantage. a converstaion i will no doubt have until I take the initiative and literally tape the answer for playback..ultimately on loop Edited August 7, 2014 by Deanh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Chevy's incentives are about $1,000 to $1,500 more than a comprable Ford...Dodge is over 2K more. That potentially would put the Ford in some configurations at a $9 thousand dollar price disadvantage. GM won't have an advantage when they go aluminum, and FCA will be out of business if they don't rein in their incentives on their products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 GM won't have an advantage when they go aluminum, and FCA will be out of business if they don't rein in their incentives on their products. thats a good point, but until then the public wont care....thats my fear..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 thats a good point, but until then the public wont care....thats my fear..... Yeah they will. The new F-150 is revolutionary. You can tow more, haul more, using less fuel than the competition. Everybody that buys a truck for capability will shop Ford, and they will sell with less incentives because of what they are. GM and Ram will have to fight over the people that shop only on price. The bottom feeders. And make less margins because of it. For the next four to five years, there is no competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisH Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Yeah they will. The new F-150 is revolutionary. You can tow more, haul more, using less fuel than the competition. Everybody that buys a truck for capability will shop Ford, and they will sell with less incentives because of what they are. GM and Ram will have to fight over the people that shop only on price. The bottom feeders. And make less margins because of it. For the next four to five years, there is no competition. My guess is that you still know a little more about these trucks and future plans than most of us. If you're not worried, then I'm not worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) Yeah they will. The new F-150 is revolutionary. You can tow more, haul more, using less fuel than the competition. Everybody that buys a truck for capability will shop Ford, and they will sell with less incentives because of what they are. GM and Ram will have to fight over the people that shop only on price. The bottom feeders. And make less margins because of it. For the next four to five years, there is no competition. one side of me agrees, the side that sells the things isnt as comfortable....price will be a HUGE part of the equation, its not like people dont cross shop...and like it or not, alot of GM's and Rams buyers will be conquest, bottom feeders or not...and not to stir even more, but EVERY 1/2 ton truck has more than enough towing and payload for a MAJORITY of buyers....sorry to say, im becoming more and more sceptical, I can only hope some of my thoughts are ungrounded....because the truck is awesome. Edited August 7, 2014 by Deanh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I just read, a few weeks back, where some auto research firm did a survey and found that most truck buyers are so intrigued by the new aluminum F-150 that they are willing to pay more for it. We’ll see come December. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 My guess is that you still know a little more about these trucks and future plans than most of us. If you're not worried, then I'm not worried. Wait until you see the Super Duty. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) Wait until you see the Super Duty. Maybe Ford is taking changes with Super Duty a step further....perhaps, continuing your theme that there is no competition for the next four years Edited August 8, 2014 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhorse Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) I think pioneer sounds like someone who has NEVER sold a New Truck in the retail environment. in reality, Price shoppers are not bottom feeders,in fact they are the majority of buyers..now they can be sold on superior value and they might pay a little more,but not muck over 2K...probably less than that. Edited August 8, 2014 by ironhorse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I think pioneer sounds like someone who has NEVER sold a New Truck in the retail environment. in reality, Price shoppers are not bottom feeders,in fact they are the majority of buyers..now they can be sold on superior value and they might pay a little more,but not muck over 2K...probably less than that. Is that why they're selling so many $60K Limited, Platinum and King Ranch versions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I think pioneer sounds like someone who has NEVER sold a New Truck in the retail environment. in reality, Price shoppers are not bottom feeders,in fact they are the majority of buyers..now they can be sold on superior value and they might pay a little more,but not muck over 2K...probably less than that. I don't sell them. I buy them. And I want a new F-150. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 BTW - if the truck is overpriced and doesn't sell then Ford will adjust the pricing. I can't believe you think the company with the best selling U.S. vehicle for the last 30+ years doesn't know what they're doing with regards to pricing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhorse Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 They will adjust...my concern is how long will it take them to adjust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) Price shoppers are not bottom feeders,in fact they are the majority of buyers. The majority of buyers don't buy on price, or Ford's sales of higher-end trim lines wouldn't be what they are. People who shop only on price (what Pioneer actually said) are the bottom feeders, the ones who buy the F150 XL with a D37 and would go for the hand-cranked windows if they could get them. Sure, everybody takes price into consideration when they're buying a vehicle (we're not Congress, after all, and are limited in what we can spend), but it's far from the only consideration. Edited August 8, 2014 by SoonerLS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 They will adjust...my concern is how long will it take them to adjust. And I'm saying that Ford believes they won't have to adjust and that buyers will pay the premium. And based on 30+ years of the F series being the #1 selling vehicle I trust they know the market better than you do. I'd be shocked if they have to offer big incentives or lower prices. I think they'll be happy with higher ATPs even if volume drops a little. The folks who shop on price go for the cheapest model period and usually end up with leftover models and fire sales or stripper door busters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I don't sell them. I buy them. And I want a new F-150. so do I, but can i afford one????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Is that why they're selling so many $60K Limited, Platinum and King Ranch versions? they arent, its a small % of the take rate that appeses the weathy with expendable income... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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