fuzzymoomoo Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 (edited) I know it's just one source, but it seems as if they are dealing with similar problems to what Ford is going through with short F-150 supplies, and perhaps the demand isn't quite what they are claiming. http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1099209_ram-diesel-pickup-trucks-dealer-stocks-low-but-sales-low-too Edited July 22, 2015 by fuzzymoomoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4d4evr-1 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 link does not work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 The article seems to be gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 The article seems to be gone Just like the promise of an affordable 1/2 ton diesel powered truck..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4d4evr-1 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 not certain of anything after reading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Are we seeing evidence that Ecodiesel sales are peaking earlier than FCA had hoped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Oddly enough the price of diesel has dropped significantly the past couple months (at least in my area) its now as cheap as regular (87 octane) gas...which has been unheard of since Low Sulfur Diesel went on sale years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Oddly enough the price of diesel has dropped significantly the past couple months (at least in my area) its now as cheap as regular (87 octane) gas...which has been unheard of since Low Sulfur Diesel went on sale years ago. Isn't that because in the summer they don't need as much heating oil and in the winter the price will go up again as more is used for heating oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Isn't that because in the summer they don't need as much heating oil and in the winter the price will go up again as more is used for heating oil? Yes, that is a lot of it, but that explains the differences between summer/winter prices of diesel. It has been a long time since the difference between diesel and gas has been this close. It's been 15 (summer)-40 (winter) % difference (with diesel being higher) since about 2012, but diesel is right on par with gas now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Diesel prices are falling proportionally with the price of crude. Gasoline prices always take longer to react. Once the summer driving season is over, I bet gas prices fall like a rock. They're currently about $0.40 higher than they should be given the current price of crude. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but a rigged market is the only thing that can explain the behavior of gasoline markets at times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 (edited) Clearly, low fuel prices all around is encouraging buyers to stick with gasoline engines instead of switching to diesel. In the rest of the world, history is that the higher the fuel price, the more people switch to diesel..... Edited August 1, 2015 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Diesel prices are falling proportionally with the price of crude. Gasoline prices always take longer to react. Once the summer driving season is over, I bet gas prices fall like a rock. They're currently about $0.40 higher than they should be given the current price of crude. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but a rigged market is the only thing that can explain the behavior of gasoline markets at times. Most reports state gas will be around $2 or less on the East Coast of the USA by next year. Guess thats the only "good" thing to come out of the Iran deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) The last time crude was in $45 range last January, gas was less than $2/gal. Now oil is $45 again and gas is still stuck at $2.50. Edited August 4, 2015 by Sevensecondsuv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 (edited) Diesel prices are falling proportionally with the price of crude. Gasoline prices always take longer to react. Once the summer driving season is over, I bet gas prices fall like a rock. They're currently about $0.40 higher than they should be given the current price of crude. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but a rigged market is the only thing that can explain the behavior of gasoline markets at times. The market is always rigged.. I work for one of the largest retail chains out there and I can tell you that we can average a low of a few cents per gallon of profit/margin on gas when we are very volatile and competitive with others and up to 25 cents a gallon when the market is slow (prices drop but we maintain our price). It is always quick to rise and slow to fall because people don't realize the true cost and we can take in more profit. Example, I have a sister station that is 7 minutes from me that is almost 20 cents cheaper then me. Not only that but diesel margins are generally 40-60 cents a gallon so although diesel is "more expensive" to the consumer, the margins are much higher so the true cost is not much more. It's all a game... For the first time I've found a station that is selling diesel cheaper then regular in my area. I have not seen this since 2008. Edited August 7, 2015 by blwnsmoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 For the first time I've found a station that is selling diesel cheaper then regular in my area. I have not seen this since 2008. The stations nearest me have regular and diesel at the exact same price. First time I've seen that since I bought my Super Duty (didn't pay attention before that). It's actually kinda nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
351cid Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I remember (in the late 80's) when regular was $.79 and diesel was $.59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I remember (in the late 80's) when regular was $.79 and diesel was $.59 Shortly after I got my '99 F150 in late '98, gas at a station near me was $0.68. I don't remember the reason for the drop, but it was only that low for a few days before it went back up. That is the lowest I ever remember it being (I didn't pay attention to gas prices when I was a kid ), and my wife and I still joke about how we should have taken a picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Shortly after I got my '99 F150 in late '98, gas at a station near me was $0.68. I don't remember the reason for the drop, but it was only that low for a few days before it went back up. That is the lowest I ever remember it being (I didn't pay attention to gas prices when I was a kid ), and my wife and I still joke about how we should have taken a picture. The cheapest I'd ever paid for gas was .68 cents a gallon in January of 1998. I had my first Mustang at the time. Gas was around $1 a gallon in High School about 4-5 years prior to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
351cid Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Ugh...buncha youngsters...I remember paying $.57 and thinking it would put me out of business (thriving lawn mowing business as a 12 year old). I remember my dad stopping at a station and having $2 worth of "Hi Test" pumped into his 7 Litre. They really did pump fuel for you in those days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 The cheapest I'd ever paid for gas was .68 cents a gallon in January of 1998. I had my first Mustang at the time. Gas was around $1 a gallon in High School about 4-5 years prior to that. I also remember that quite distinctly. The "Asian Contagion" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Asian_financial_crisis The powerful negative shock also sharply reduced the price of oil, which reached a low of about $11 per barrel towards the end of 1998 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneekr Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Car and Driver just did a road test review of 2015 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel 4x4 Long Horn. As with evaluations by other publications, C&D concluded that the diesel powertrain enhances the overall competence of Ram 1500 beyond what the test numbers alone would suggest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Car and Driver just did a road test review of 2015 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel 4x4 Long Horn. As with evaluations by other publications, C&D concluded that the diesel powertrain enhances the overall competence of Ram 1500 beyond what the test numbers alone would suggest. It's an impressive engine in a heavy truck (5,688 lbs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I remember (in the late 80's) when regular was $.79 and diesel was $.59 And you walked to school in 10 feet of snow, uphill, both ways Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Why did Ram add a diesel to the range before reducing the weight of the 1500? That would have improve the fuel efficiency of all trucks, regardless of engines used. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Why did Ram add a diesel to the range before reducing the weight of the 1500? That would have improve the fuel efficiency of all trucks, regardless of engines used. That would require engineering resources they do not have. The diesel if off the shelf just to have a competitive offering against the EB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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