Harley Lover Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I was looking around to see if Ford was going to show any concepts at the show (as best I could determine, no), but they are introducing some production models for Europe. In the case of the Ecosport, their version is contains the improvements and upgrades we will see when the little booger comes to market. The attached article had the best pics: http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/850257/Ford-Ecosport-2018-SUV-new-car-Frankfurt-Motor-Show Look at the slideshow, some good images there. I just noticed the blue one has a black treatment on the roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 Another good take on the revised Euro Ecosport: http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-events/frankfurt/2017/ford-ecosport-facelift-2017-at-frankfurt-motor-show/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I wouldn't buy this over a Fiesta, but most buyers obviously think differently, given sales trends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I wouldn't buy this over a Fiesta, but most buyers obviously think differently, given sales trends. Which Fiesta? The current one or the new one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Ugly dash. Rest looks ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 rmc23, both generations. Although I like the new one better than our current Fiesta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Oh look at that, a third pedal :glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Ugly dash. Rest looks ok. I think the dash looks good. Way more useful than the current Focus/Escape sync 3 screen that's buried at a weird angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I think the dash looks good. Way more useful than the current Focus/Escape sync 3 screen that's buried at a weird angle. I have both an Escape and Focus with the Sync3/nav combo. There's nothing wrong with the angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Reminds me of those dorky fiats. Very Euro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Cute lil booger..i can only imagine with that short wheel base you could chop carrots and lettuce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Consider it more of a two seat Ute that has an occasional rear seat capability. Remmeber that Exosport is around 7" shorter than Trax, that's a big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailhiker Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I think this is just a stop-gap product. It is way too small for the pricepoint, regardless of how good the engine is. Does the hatch still open sideways instead of upwards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I have both an Escape and Focus with the Sync3/nav combo. There's nothing wrong with the angle. I find it very awkward to reach the bottom of the touch screen, especially the lower left corner which you can't really see without leaning over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 The limitations of the Eco-sport have been discussed quite a bit, but I think it's important for Ford to put something out there in this market segment. It doesn't cost them much to do it until the next generation is available for sale. I think it's better to have something in the market rather than nothing at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I think this is just a stop-gap product. It is way too small for the pricepoint, regardless of how good the engine is. Does the hatch still open sideways instead of upwards? The design and execution is stop gap for sure, but not the size. There is a market for tiny utes like this one. There does appear to be a larger crossover on the way that's in between this and the current Escape as the new Escape gets a little bigger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 The limitations of the Eco-sport have been discussed quite a bit, but I think it's important for Ford to put something out there in this market segment. It doesn't cost them much to do it until the next generation is available for sale. I think it's better to have something in the market rather than nothing at all. Agreed. And like a lot of other things, it should have been done 2-3 years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Agreed. And like a lot of other things, it should have been done 2-3 years ago. Agreed, better late than never I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Agreed. And like a lot of other things, it should have been done 2-3 years ago. Looking back at 2-3 years ago Ford was still launching the new Fusion, Mustang, F-150...consolidating platforms,etc...hindsight is 20/20. Yeah they can do a better job, but at the same time resources only go so far and well they bunted badly with pull back they where expecting to hit everything, when it only hit cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Looking back at 2-3 years ago Ford was still launching the new Fusion, Mustang, F-150...consolidating platforms,etc...hindsight is 20/20. Yeah they can do a better job, but at the same time resources only go so far and well they bunted badly with pull back they where expecting to hit everything, when it only hit cars. But Ecosport already existed and is being imported so there would have been very little impact to NA resources. I'm sure this was all tied up in the bigger plans for model E and new C platform and associated factory implications so I understand the reasons. I'm just saying they should have planned better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 But Ecosport already existed and is being imported so there would have been very little impact to NA resources. I'm sure this was all tied up in the bigger plans for model E and new C platform and associated factory implications so I understand the reasons. I'm just saying they should have planned better. and that goes back to Mulally. That's one of the few mistakes that he made Fields could have rectified quite easily. Instead he doubled down on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 But Ecosport already existed and is being imported so there would have been very little impact to NA resources. I'm sure this was all tied up in the bigger plans for model E and new C platform and associated factory implications so I understand the reasons. I'm just saying they should have planned better. Right, but given the harsh criticism that people here have been giving the Ecosport, short of a new product or completely new design for it...we still be waiting for it. Its lipstick on a pig to most people here...and will prob hang around for another 2-3-4 years before being replaced by something newer or more suited to NA market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 The 2017 model we're getting here now is a significant improvement over the older model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 The Honda HR-V didn't arrive quite fully baked in some ways, but people are still buying every one that Honda can build. I doubt that the EcoSport will have any trouble finding sufficient buyers, whatever flaws we think that it has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 The Honda HR-V didn't arrive quite fully baked in some ways, but people are still buying every one that Honda can build. I doubt that the EcoSport will have any trouble finding sufficient buyers, whatever flaws we think that it has. Odd thing is I haven't noticed that many of them on the road...or they are just blending in with the CR-Vs I think the Ecosport might actually sell better than the Fiesta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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