silvrsvt Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 https://www.motor1.com/news/182873/2018-ford-mustang-fuel-economy/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 https://jalopnik.com/5485162/2011-ford-mustang-v6-first-300-hp%252B-car-to-achieve-31-mpg 2011 300hp V6 with 31mpg Good job Ford. Less than 1% increase in fuel economy in 7 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 https://jalopnik.com/5485162/2011-ford-mustang-v6-first-300-hp%252B-car-to-achieve-31-mpg 2011 300hp V6 with 31mpg Good job Ford. Less than 1% increase in fuel economy in 7 years. Well to be fair under today's standard it would be 30mpg. But point taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 https://jalopnik.com/5485162/2011-ford-mustang-v6-first-300-hp%252B-car-to-achieve-31-mpg 2011 300hp V6 with 31mpg Good job Ford. Less than 1% increase in fuel economy in 7 years. Technically, it's a 3.2% increase. Add in the changes in standards that jasonj80 mentioned, it's a 6.67% increase. That's about 1% per year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 And to add (like my best-friends husband who had a mid-life crisis and bought a GT but drives like an old lady), if your hitting those numbers, you just ain't enjoying your vehicle. So I fly by them on the street happily as I'm doing 13MPG in my LS LOL.... Ce la vie... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I think some aren't looking at the whole package being offered for 2018 10AT GT gets 0-60 in under 4 seconds and 25 mpg = not a bad increase at both ends 10AT EB gets 0-60 in under 5 seconds and 32 mpg = not a bad increase at both ends 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Technically, it's a 3.2% increase. Add in the changes in standards that jasonj80 mentioned, it's a 6.67% increase. That's about 1% per year. I don't know how I screwed my math up, but I did. My sarcasm is correct, if not a little too subtle. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettech Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Duct tape will be part of the Aero Package? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Duct tape will be part of the Aero Package? And you people say Nascar doesn't contribute any tech to passenger cars........ 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) Sounds like a few"go fast" holes didn't work as planned Edited October 12, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 So will we ever see a TTV6 Mustang or has that been cleverly left for Fusion Sport? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) So will we ever see a TTV6 Mustang or has that been cleverly left for Fusion Sport? Never is a long time, but there's currently no slot for those mills in the Mustang line. The EB27 V6 in the Edge and the EB23 I4 in the Mustang have about the same output, and the V8 is what makes a Mustang GT a Mustang GT and a GT350 a GT350, so it doesn't really matter how the EB35 performs. TTV6 just isn't in the nature of the car, just like the V12 they tested in the Mustang back in the early 2000s. ETA: I missed the EB27 in the Fusion Sport. It actually has better numbers than the Edge, but not drastically better than the EB23 in the Stang. Edited October 15, 2017 by SoonerLS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 The 2.3EB tops out at 320 lb/ft. The 2.7LEB in the F150 tops out at 400 lb/ft. That’s a significant difference, although it is pretty close to the 5.0L GT. I think a SVT tuned 3.0LEB could slot above the 5.0L at 475 hp if they wanted to push it that far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I think a V6 EB is inevitable, especially if there is ever a Mark IX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisH Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 The 2.3EB tops out at 320 lb/ft. The 2.7LEB in the F150 tops out at 400 lb/ft. That’s a significant difference, although it is pretty close to the 5.0L GT. I think a SVT tuned 3.0LEB could slot above the 5.0L at 475 hp if they wanted to push it that far. In the 2018 Mustang, the 2.3EB tops out at 350lb/ft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) In the 2018 Mustang, the 2.3EB tops out at 350lb/ft. Didnt see that. Interesting the peak HP doesnt change. Edited October 16, 2017 by akirby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Didnt see that. Interesting the peak HP doesnt change. That's pretty common with the EB engines where mid range torque is boosted while top end power is controlled electronically. Edited October 16, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) On a different subject... Power packs for the 2015-2017 5.0 GT increased horsepower form 435 hp to 472 hp. I wonder what Ford has planned for the 460 hp '18 5.0 GT...could we see 480-490 hp? Imagine that in front of a 10 speed auto GT...... Edited October 16, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 On a different subject... Power packs for the 2015-2017 5.0 GT increased horsepower form 435 hp to 472 hp. I wonder what Ford has planned for the 460 hp '18 5.0 GT...could we see 480-490 hp? Imagine that in front of a 10 speed auto GT...... Well it looks like another Bullett Mustang is on its way...and that would be a great application of that, just like the previous generations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 top end power is controlled electronically. Only on FWD vehicles to protect the tranny/ptu. No reason to do that on mustang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Only on FWD vehicles to protect the tranny/ptu. No reason to do that on mustang. Exactly, hopefully the new Transmission family will allow those numbers to increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Exactly, hopefully the new Transmission family will allow those numbers to increase. I suspect it will be designed to handle up to 400 lb/ft (current 3.0LEB output) without the need for torque management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I suspect it will be designed to handle up to 400 lb/ft (current 3.0LEB output) without the need for torque management. I would hope it would be more like 450 or 500 being a new design, the current one tops out at 400. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) I would hope it would be more like 450 or 500 being a new design, the current one tops out at 400. Notice the 'without the need for torque management' in his post. 400 with the current tranny only comes with torque management. Edited October 16, 2017 by fordmantpw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 400 with the current tranny only comes with torque management. Bingo. I don't see the need for more than 400 hp in a transverse engine/part time AWD setup. Especially if you can handle all 400 lb/ft without limiting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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