silvrsvt 2,824 Posted November 1, 2019 2 2 passis, probowler and Stampede.Offroad reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stampede.Offroad 58 Posted November 1, 2019 Not too surprised. I would imagine this will line up with the release for the Bronco Maverick (aka baby) since that's supposed to come out first by a few months, but can hardly be trotted out with the Bronco name if Ford doesn't say something significant about the namesake model itself. 1 kyle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anthony 1,692 Posted November 1, 2019 About time! 1 kyle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stampede.Offroad 58 Posted November 1, 2019 Some deduction to narrow it down: "Spring" officially ends June 21 Financial Q2 ends with June Bronco Maverick (aka baby) was anticipated to precede regular Bronco by a few months Bronco Job 1 anticipated for Dec'20-Jan'21 Ford's hometown auto show NAIAS in Detroit starts June 7 Ford has adopted a pattern of making major model announcements at independent events, not auto shows So my dart is on late May 2020 for the Bronco press release, with perhaps an announcement for the announcement around a Bronco-centric spring event like Bronco Super Celebration in April (if we're lucky, we might get some teaser images that early). The announcement for the announcement could also be at the Bronco Maverick (aka baby) release event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurgeh 241 Posted November 1, 2019 I notice this from C&D: "Now we know for sure that the production SUV will go on sale sometime next year as a 2020 model." Huh, if true that's going to be a pretty short first year model year. Usually mid-calendar year releases get the next year's date for model year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anthony 1,692 Posted November 1, 2019 Per Mike Levine, it will DEFINITELY not be at the NY Auto Show. 1 fordmantpw reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fuzzymoomoo 5,219 Posted November 1, 2019 32 minutes ago, Gurgeh said: I notice this from C&D: "Now we know for sure that the production SUV will go on sale sometime next year as a 2020 model." Huh, if true that's going to be a pretty short first year model year. Usually mid-calendar year releases get the next year's date for model year. Ford's own website calls it a 2021, which is significant since for the longest time it said 2020 until they took the date off of it entirely. 1 Gurgeh reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
70 Stang 22 Posted November 1, 2019 24 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Ford's own website calls it a 2021, which is significant since for the longest time it said 2020 until they took the date off of it entirely. So are we safe to assume the new Ranger will be MY 2022? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fuzzymoomoo 5,219 Posted November 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, 70 Stang said: So are we safe to assume the new Ranger will be MY 2022? I'm not privy to that, but rumor has it being a 2023 model. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksn8k2 353 Posted November 1, 2019 Early on when Ford first announced the return of both the Ranger and Bronco there was speculation that they would share not only a platform but also some sheet metal. Any chance that will actually happen with the next gen Ranger? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fuzzymoomoo 5,219 Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, blksn8k2 said: Early on when Ford first announced the return of both the Ranger and Bronco there was speculation that they would share not only a platform but also some sheet metal. Any chance that will actually happen with the next gen Ranger? None Nothing on the outside anyway. Things like floor pans, front structure and firewall I could see sharing though. Edited November 1, 2019 by fuzzymoomoo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurgeh 241 Posted November 1, 2019 I find it funny that the auto press is describing the soon-to-be-released Bronco as "based on the redesigned Ranger" coming a couple years down the road. Huh. I guess we are learning even more about the Bronco's amazing new abilities. Among other things, it is clairvoyant. 1 passis reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksn8k2 353 Posted November 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: None Nothing on the outside anyway. Things like floor pans, front structure and firewall I could see sharing though. I keep seeing speculation about a Bronco based pickup that would supposedly compete with the Gladiator. Why wouldn't that be the Ranger Raptor? It only makes sense that Ford would want to maintain the sales numbers of the F-150 so why would they jeopardize that by producing two completely different mid-size trucks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksn8k2 353 Posted November 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Gurgeh said: I find it funny that the auto press is describing the soon-to-be-released Bronco as "based on the redesigned Ranger" coming a couple years down the road. Huh. I guess we are learning even more about the Bronco's amazing new abilities. Among other things, it is clairvoyant. Or, is it possible that when they say "redesigned Ranger" they are actually talking about the current Ranger which is nothing like the old Ranger most people remember. Never mind the fact that the current Ranger isn't really new. 1 Gurgeh reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silvrsvt 2,824 Posted November 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, blksn8k2 said: Or, is it possible that when they say "redesigned Ranger" they are actually talking about the current Ranger which is nothing like the old Ranger most people remember. Never mind the fact that the current Ranger isn't really new. Actually the Bronco is going on an upgraded platform that the current Ranger is built off of. Keep in mind the current Ranger platform can only accept inline engines due to space issues-that will be fixed starting with the Bronco and then the next gen Ranger in 2023MY. 1 wildosvt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fuzzymoomoo 5,219 Posted November 1, 2019 24 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: Actually the Bronco is going on an upgraded platform that the current Ranger is built off of. Keep in mind the current Ranger platform can only accept inline engines due to space issues-that will be fixed starting with the Bronco and then the next gen Ranger in 2023MY. Thats actually due to the top hat. The new Ranger frame we have now in North America will largely carry over to Bronco and NG Ranger from what I understand, with minor changes to accommodate whatever suspension changes might be desired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kranger84 3 Posted November 1, 2019 Car and Driver just posted this..Pretty sure they are wrong. "We previously thought that the Bronco Sport might arrive before its big sibling, but now that Ford has announced the release date for the real-deal 2020 Bronco as spring 2020, we think that timeline might be reversed. It's now looking like the Bronco Sport will debut a few months after the Bronco, likely going on sale later next year as a 2021 model." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deanh 1,866 Posted November 1, 2019 34 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: Actually the Bronco is going on an upgraded platform that the current Ranger is built off of. Keep in mind the current Ranger platform can only accept inline engines due to space issues-that will be fixed starting with the Bronco and then the next gen Ranger in 2023MY. yay....engine choices.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deanh 1,866 Posted November 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kranger84 said: Car and Driver just posted this..Pretty sure they are wrong. "We previously thought that the Bronco Sport might arrive before its big sibling, but now that Ford has announced the release date for the real-deal 2020 Bronco as spring 2020, we think that timeline might be reversed. It's now looking like the Bronco Sport will debut a few months after the Bronco, likely going on sale later next year as a 2021 model." not what Ive been told...Bronco Sport actually hitting the ground next year...Bronco is at least 14 months away...they'll release it for people to start drooling...but it wont hit lots for most likely 12 months after that...much like the Mach E...11/17/ 2019 release///not at lots for 12 months after that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmc523 2,776 Posted November 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deanh said: not what Ive been told...Bronco Sport actually hitting the ground next year...Bronco is at least 14 months away...they'll release it for people to start drooling...but it wont hit lots for most likely 12 months after that...much like the Mach E...11/17/ 2019 release///not at lots for 12 months after that... I still hate that extremely dragged out timeline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deanh 1,866 Posted November 1, 2019 31 minutes ago, rmc523 said: I still hate that extremely dragged out timeline. extremely dragged out is an understatement when it comes to the Bronco... 2 Stampede.Offroad and ice-capades reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bzcat 1,219 Posted November 1, 2019 Four major auto shows in first half of the year - Chicago (Feb), New York (April), Beijing (April), and Detroit (June). Two major debuts - Bronco and Bronco Sport. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silvrsvt 2,824 Posted November 1, 2019 50 minutes ago, bzcat said: Four major auto shows in first half of the year - Chicago (Feb), New York (April), Beijing (April), and Detroit (June). Two major debuts - Bronco and Bronco Sport. Mike Levine shot down NYC as one of the shows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silvrsvt 2,824 Posted November 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Deanh said: not what Ive been told...Bronco Sport actually hitting the ground next year...Bronco is at least 14 months away...they'll release it for people to start drooling...but it wont hit lots for most likely 12 months after that...much like the Mach E...11/17/ 2019 release///not at lots for 12 months after that... everything is pointing with the Bronco going into production with in the next 11-13 months-basically this time next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmc523 2,776 Posted November 1, 2019 I also can't see a primarily US-oriented model debuting in China. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
