Trailhiker Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, akirby said: So what exactly should they do differently to let Mustang be a Mustang again? I'd take the designers of the new Bronco, show them a Mustang from the late 60's-early 70's, and let them run with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucelinc Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 I don't care if it is considered a sports car, muscle car or pony car. The 2018+ models drive great, handle great, perform great and also make very civilized daily drivers. To my eye, they are also the best looking Mustangs ever produced. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin Turbo Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 I love the retro Mustangs.....heck, that's why I have an '05. I'd love for Ford to give us another retro-modern version, more '69/'70 this time..............but I don't see it ever happening again. I do think the '18+ hits the sweet spot in terms of muscle (those hips are more pronounced than any S197!).....and sports car. I expect S650 to be a refining of those looks when it arrives for the '23MY. This render is one of my favourite official ones from Ford. This was one that didn't make it from the initial S550 sketches, but I'd love to see this as S650. It brings back the "hockey stick"/faux side vent, and adds even more flare to those hips. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Trailhiker said: I'd take the designers of the new Bronco, show them a Mustang from the late 60's-early 70's, and let them run with it. So you want them to stick with the '05 design forever... 1 hour ago, Twin Turbo said: I love the retro Mustangs.....heck, that's why I have an '05. I'd love for Ford to give us another retro-modern version, more '69/'70 this time..............but I don't see it ever happening again. I do think the '18+ hits the sweet spot in terms of muscle (those hips are more pronounced than any S197!).....and sports car. I expect S650 to be a refining of those looks when it arrives for the '23MY. This render is one of my favourite official ones from Ford. This was one that didn't make it from the initial S550 sketches, but I'd love to see this as S650. It brings back the "hockey stick"/faux side vent, and adds even more flare to those hips. I personally don't like that one much - THAT doesn't look like a Mustang to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin Turbo Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 It's not that much different to what we have now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 26 minutes ago, Twin Turbo said: It's not that much different to what we have now! I think it's the back end that is bothering me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 13 hours ago, brucelinc said: I don't care if it is considered a sports car, muscle car or pony car. The 2018+ models drive great, handle great, perform great and also make very civilized daily drivers. To my eye, they are also the best looking Mustangs ever produced. I concur with your assessment. This is my favorite Mustang to date. My 17 year old son wants me to trade his truck in on one. Many of his friends appear to like them too. It’s good to see it is attracting the attention of the younger generation. I think that is pretty important for the sustainability of the Mustang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailhiker Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 21 hours ago, rmc523 said: So you want them to stick with the '05 design forever... The '05 was a great design, but I believe that now 15 years later, they could design a Mustang even more influenced by the late 60's models. Ford should really have three cars. A Capri that would compete with the MX5 and 86/BRZ A retro Mustang pony/muscle car in a wide price and power range. A Thunderbird, similar in size and power to the Audi A7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucelinc Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 One of the things many people like about the current Mustang is that it makes a surprisingly good daily driver. Visibility is excellent. There is a lot of trunk space. While the rear seat is basically just decoration, the front is roomy and the seats are comfortable. Ergonomics are quite good, too. The ride is pleasant. Road and wind noise is very muted. While a lower, swoopier design might be pleasing to the eye, there is danger of losing some of the usability....like the Camaro has done. I do agree with facelifts that keep it fresh and we expect a more major change in a few years but I think the current model has done a remarkable job of marrying sportiness, performance, handling, comfort and usability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucelinc Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Maybe some new colors and larger wheels would be a nice upgrade..... ? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Trailhiker said: The '05 was a great design, but I believe that now 15 years later, they could design a Mustang even more influenced by the late 60's models. Ford should really have three cars. A Capri that would compete with the MX5 and 86/BRZ A retro Mustang pony/muscle car in a wide price and power range. A Thunderbird, similar in size and power to the Audi A7 A "Capri" would be DOA and a waste of resources. I could get on board with your Thunderbird idea, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 On 1/15/2020 at 11:47 AM, rmc523 said: I think it's the back end that is bothering me. The back end is too 80's Camaro to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 2 hours ago, brucelinc said: Maybe some new colors and larger wheels would be a nice upgrade..... ? I actually like that color too bad the wheels are total ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: I actually like that color too bad the wheels are total ? 3 hours ago, brucelinc said: Maybe some new colors and larger wheels would be a nice upgrade..... ? That was a totally cool color when I was 10 years old dreaming about going fast! All kidding aside - Ford could use some color across the entire line of vehicles - but in this day of leasing and everyone concerned about re-sale instead actually driving something personal, bland is good - I guess. When I drive past the giant Enterprise Auto Sales lot on my way home every single former rental for sale is somewhere between white and black. Edited January 16, 2020 by Kev-Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin Turbo Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 Getting back on topic....... Well.....I'm still holding out hope for a mild (ish) '21MY refresh. Just hope they really are testing at night which is why we've not seen any recent spy photos. Guess time will tell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 54 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: The back end is too 80's Camaro to me Yes, that's it! Couldn't place my finger on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 24 minutes ago, Kev-Mo said: That was a totally cool color when I was 10 years old dreaming about going fast! All kidding aside - Ford could use some color across the entire line of vehicles - but in this day of leasing and everyone concerned about re-sale instead actually driving something personal, bland is good - I guess. When I drive past the giant Enterprise Auto Sales lot on my way home every single former rental for sale is somewhere between white and black. Mustang is probably the 1 thing in the lineup they can get really bold with colors if they wanted to (and they usually have 2 or 3 that are) because historically they do not lease well, at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, rmc523 said: Yes, that's it! Couldn't place my finger on it. not that I think the 80s Camaros are that bad, my dad an 85 and 87 before he got rid of the latter one for his 68 he had for a while. I always thought they were pretty cool and if I could find one in decent shape around here I would take one over a Fox body Mustang any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Mustang is probably the 1 thing in the lineup they can get really bold with colors if they wanted to (and they usually have 2 or 3 that are) because historically they do not lease well, at all. They don't even lease the GTs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, rmc523 said: They don't even lease the GTs. Sometimes they don't lease any mustang models at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, akirby said: Sometimes they don't lease any mustang models at all. Hm, didn't know that - I thought it was a GT/2.3 thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 The leasing issue with Mustang GT's is directly related to all the GT's that are abused, damaged severely (rear axles, transmissions, etc.) and then towed to the dealerships for warranty repair. Most of the time Ford will cover the first repair under warranty but often these cars come back again with the same abuse-caused damage and the owner foots the repair bill, not Ford. Seen this more times than I can count over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Kev-Mo said: I was an orange Raleigh Chopper kid myself,,,, much nicer shift console. HRG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 39 minutes ago, rmc523 said: Hm, didn't know that - I thought it was a GT/2.3 thing. That may have been right after a new model introduction. I don't think it's a permanent thing on the base models at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 49 minutes ago, ice-capades said: The leasing issue with Mustang GT's is directly related to all the GT's that are abused, damaged severely (rear axles, transmissions, etc.) and then towed to the dealerships for warranty repair. Most of the time Ford will cover the first repair under warranty but often these cars come back again with the same abuse-caused damage and the owner foots the repair bill, not Ford. Seen this more times than I can count over the years. Makes sense to me. So you're telling me I should go destroy a few things and tow it in? Haha. I'd have leased my GT had I been able to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.