FordBuyer Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, jpd80 said: Ford built 25,000 Escapes last month, they better start selling them. On the OP topic, The analysis is restricted to just 4.8 million "cars" over MY19-MY21, total vehicle sales in that period is ten times the number. So while it paints a picture looking in one direction, the reality of vehicles turning on lots is quite different. I think the Escape will find its sales equilibrium soon when fleet sales are better, and the plugin makes its appearance. Also, Ford will offer some appearance packages and better wheels for the SE. While it won't sell as well as previous Escapes, it won't have to with the Sport. The hybrids are its ace in the hole and much more towing capacity than the Sport. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 29 minutes ago, FordBuyer said: The hybrids are its ace in the hole Yes sir FordBuyer. Among the three compact non-luxury crossover models in the U.S. market that offer a regular hybrid version (RAV4, CR-V, and Escape), Escape is the one in which the hybrid powertrain option is most compelling. Hopefully Ford will be able to ramp up production of the SE Sport Hybrid model. My salesman at Autonation Ford said that demand outstrips supply on those. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 22 hours ago, CKNSLS said: As I stated before-it's the styling. Those on here can make excuses all day long-but that thing isn't selling because of the way it looks. It actually looks very nice, it just doesn't look like everything else in the class (which all look much alike). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKNSLS Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Kev-Mo said: It actually looks very nice, it just doesn't look like everything else in the class (which all look much alike). Yes. And I think that's part of the issue. If you look at the previous two generations of the Escape-it doesn't have "that look". It's hard to explain.....but because it doesn't look like anything else -the redesign is being rejected. I do believe the hybrid version will breath some life in to it-but those sales will be minuscule compared to the competition (non-hybrid). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 29 minutes ago, CKNSLS said: Yes. And I think that's part of the issue. If you look at the previous two generations of the Escape-it doesn't have "that look". It's hard to explain.....but because it doesn't look like anything else -the redesign is being rejected. I do believe the hybrid version will breath some life in to it-but those sales will be minuscule compared to the competition (non-hybrid). Simple solution; Make the very same Escape look Asian with all those angles and body creases...if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Give the consumer what they want - to look like everyone else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKNSLS Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Kev-Mo said: Simple solution; Make the very same Escape look Asian with all those angles and body creases...if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Give the consumer what they want - to look like everyone else. As it is right now-IMHO it has more in common with the "Oval Taurus" of 1995 to 1999 than anything else. And we know how it went for those......... Edited August 20, 2020 by CKNSLS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 56 minutes ago, Kev-Mo said: Simple solution; Make the very same Escape look Asian with all those angles and body creases...if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Chinese version of new Ford Escape has more of those styling elements compared to the American version. Some people on this forum said they prefer the styling of the Chinese version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKNSLS Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, rperez817 said: Chinese version of new Ford Escape has more of those styling elements compared to the American version. Some people on this forum said they prefer the styling of the Chinese version. Yes-I prefer this as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 28 minutes ago, CKNSLS said: Yes-I prefer this as well. The textured grille alone would have made a HUGE difference instead of the black plastic honeycomb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 hours ago, rperez817 said: Chinese version of new Ford Escape has more of those styling elements compared to the American version. Some people on this forum said they prefer the styling of the Chinese version. oh my gosh - it’s like a completely different vehicle! Not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 hours ago, rperez817 said: Chinese version of new Ford Escape has more of those styling elements compared to the American version. Some people on this forum said they prefer the styling of the Chinese version. From the stuff I see that presents itself on Amazon when I do a generic product search - It seems American Consumers like the Chinese version of every single thing they buy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Its really just one set of body creases...right under the headlight. I like the Ford logo on the grill also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 15 hours ago, Kev-Mo said: Its really just one set of body creases...right under the headlight. I like the Ford logo on the grill also The shape of the grille opening is different too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisH Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: The shape of the grille opening is different too The Chinese grill looks like it is also a little bit larger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 July 2020 days inventory data from Cox Automotive. https://www.coxautoinc.com/market-insights/new-vehicle-inventory-slumps-even-lower/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 What it boils down to is the new Escape photographs horribly (miss the subtle details in the sheetmetal) and doesn't look that great in black (at least when I saw it) in person. It looks overall fine in other colors and I keep seeing more and more of them every day. People bitched about the Explorers styling and its doing fine and increasing sales...at least over its horrible launch. People are far too quick to pick any new releases apart by Ford...deserved or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 13 hours ago, silvrsvt said: What it boils down to is the new Escape photographs horribly (miss the subtle details in the sheetmetal) and doesn't look that great in black (at least when I saw it) in person. It looks overall fine in other colors and I keep seeing more and more of them every day. People bitched about the Explorers styling and its doing fine and increasing sales...at least over its horrible launch. People are far too quick to pick any new releases apart by Ford...deserved or not. I've read and seen many Escape and Explorer reviews, and most of them praise the exterior and criticize the interior materials. While I don't agree on the low and midtrim interiors, Ford needs to up the ante on the higher trims and hide the hard plastic better on the lower trim levels. Also the instrument panel on the Escape SE needs to be improved on the refresh. Do that and both vehicles will do better when reviewed and do better when cross shopped. Both the Escape and Exploer are very good vehicles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 On 9/1/2020 at 1:12 AM, FordBuyer said: I've read and seen many Escape and Explorer reviews, and most of them praise the exterior and criticize the interior materials. While I don't agree on the low and midtrim interiors, Ford needs to up the ante on the higher trims and hide the hard plastic better on the lower trim levels. Also the instrument panel on the Escape SE needs to be improved on the refresh. Do that and both vehicles will do better when reviewed and do better when cross shopped. Both the Escape and Exploer are very good vehicles The reason Ford doesn't do more with Titanium or Platinum trim levels is exactly because Lincoln needs that product headroom. I get the notion of premium level Escape and Explorer but know that they would savage Lincoln sales, probably are as we speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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