Results, Fact not Fiction

[Decker]

The people mistakenly labeled us as socialist...

The people put us in the mix as wanting to defund the police...

The people say we went soft on Antifa...

The people are saying there was more than peaceful protests happening in demo controlled cities and states...

 

Boy the half assed retractions are floating to the top of the towelette bowl. Just like all the other demo turds.

But wait... those dam repubo`s were unfairly aligning us and then labeling us with all those radicle progressives and anarchists'. Of course it was that dam current President that made Portland, Seattle, New York City etc etc majors not want his evil ways or evil government forces in their cities because you know he was causing all the peaceful protesting.  

 

Then "Sandy" lets go with both barrels on her pick to help usher her views of how it all should be. (Socialist States of America)

“Someone like Rahm Emanuel would be a pretty divisive pick,” Ocasio-Cortez (Sandy), D-N.Y., told the New York Times."

 “And it would signal, I think, a hostile approach to the grass-roots and the progressive wing of the party.”… (riots anyone? opp`s I meant peaceful protests anyone)

“I think that’s what people are keeping an eye out for: Is this administration going to be actively hostile and try to put in appointments that are going to just squash progressives and organizing?” she said.

 “I don’t envy the Biden team. It’s a very delicate balance. But I think it’s really important to strike a good one. Because it sends a very, very powerful message on the intention to govern.”

Wait Wait again... sounds like Sandra isn`t a part of the old snoozers team?

There`s trouble a brewin in the rants but everyone is going to be just fine when Medicare and Medicaid for all kicks in. OlyBaaBaa care is sending everyone home without an ER bill. Then when the guaranteed income benefit checks start showing up, oh and all the no we won`t raise anyone's taxes but, those dam rich peep`s. (not you Clinton`s you get the pass)

Sandy is going to be a big thorn in the demo asses. The demo peep`s got bills to pay and are so easy and really most like those shit sammich``s

 

Edited November 10, 2020 by Decker

[fmccap]

Good read I thought.

 

Trump’s Greatest Achievement

[Decker]

Thank you fmccap 

[Decker]

Another opinion and a list that has never been heard or seen on CNN, MSNBC etc...

The turn around or the move towards what the great speaking leader of eight wonderful years once had in place is taking place. Iran, there ok... Founding the WHO at 80 or 90% is ok... The UN is ok... Shut the country down and pay everyone`s full wages for 4 to 6 weeks is ok...Welcome home Made in China.  

 

https://www.gadsdentimes.com/story/opinion/columns/2020/10/18/trumps-long-list-accomplishments/3671585001/

[Decker]

Not officially over but.... the bills are coming due already, https://www.theepochtimes.com/co-founder-of-black-lives-matter-urges-biden-and-harris-to-give-top-priority-to-its-agenda_3576201.html

 

[fmccap]

Now they tell us.

 

Tax filings reveal Biden cancer charity spent millions on salaries, zero on research

[Footballfan]

On 11/8/2020 at 8:27 AM, Decker said:

Hmm those names (Lenin, Stallin) are mentioned and some of the other outstanding leaders of the past....

 

Yesterday Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez asked if anybody was archiving social media (and other) activity of “Trump sycophants” so it can be used against them in the future:

Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? I foresee decent probability of many deleted Tweets, writings, photos in the future

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) November 6, 2020

 

James Woods wants to be included. Here’s why:

Are you literally making lists? I understand you’re an ignorant nitwit who’s never had a passing acquaintance with a history book, but political lists are EXACTLY what Communists do: Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Castro. So put me at the top of your list, you moron. I’d be honored. https://t.co/vQzmjwBRMe

— James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) November 7, 2020

If and when the election is sent to the house I hope that the princess of the Bronx understands the proceedings may be different from her liking. But she`ll see face to face more names for her list...

 

AOCCY`s List of Bad Kids;

Mitch -  sneezed without covering his mouth

Gretchen - is just a bitch

Donny - dosen`t like me

ALL THOSE KIDS IN THAT OTHER HANGOUT!!!! Like I mean really the higher Chamber... really

 

AOC= America's Obnoxious Communist 

 

 

 

[twintornados]

7 hours ago, fmccap said:

Now they tell us.

 

Tax filings reveal Biden cancer charity spent millions on salaries, zero on research

 

Would that have changed your vote?

[fmccap]

4 hours ago, twintornados said:

 

Would that have changed your vote?

Not mine but maybe some of the others who were all about the taxes being released scam.

[coupe3w]

Anyone remember the days of news reporting the news, instead of liberal propaganda?  How is the voice of conservatives ever going to be heard in this country?

[fuzzymoomoo]

21 minutes ago, coupe3w said:

Anyone remember the days of news reporting the news, instead of liberal propaganda?  How is the voice of conservatives ever going to be heard in this country?

Unless you’re paying for The Daily Wire or The Blaze, you won't. Might as well get used to it. 

[twintornados]

53 minutes ago, coupe3w said:

Anyone remember the days of news reporting the news, instead of liberal propaganda?  How is the voice of conservatives ever going to be heard in this country?

 

Fixed

[Decker]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/rep-mo-brooks-congress-has-absolute-right-to-reject-a-states-electoral-college-votes_3584562.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-11-18-3

 

Wonder how this will be played out in the media? Antifa is praying for this. The constitution is amazing. 

[Decker]

Between marketing and salesmanship (politics') when did the population lose their consideration of common since?  Much less the willingness to think for our selves and not run and hide under the bed....

With the of changing of a word here and there in the description's of what is and or will happen with CCP virus we have seen the word "of" substituted for the word "with". Then the substituting of phrase like the references in this,
"If it hadn’t been marketed under the nifty sounding name “social distancing” along with that idiotic slogan we were taught to mindlessly bark at each other, Flatten the curve!, but instead been described accurately as quarantining the healthy, everyone would have immediately realized the preposterous Bull Shit we were being fed".

Then there is the quarantining of people after Inconclusive COVID Test Results. 

When is a person contagious? How is the spreading of Covid any different from the spreading of any other virus? 

Just wondering? Have the numbers (rolling average or whatever is popular today) ever reflected the number of people who test positive and never need a hospital, Doctor intervention or anything more than Advil? How do the numbers reflect people that are contacted by the state CDC as being in contact with a positive result person, then both the positive person and the contact test negative just days later?

 
Ok Ok then there`s the "it ain`t just the flu".... (baaa baaa good sheepie) 
 

[paintguy]

Ain't it amazin' how restrictions become far more restrictive and National Guards called out to enforce, just days after the election. Not to mention 2 effective vaccines  announced.

[Decker]

Johns Hopkins University Newspaper Pulls Down Article Questioning COVID-19 Death Tolls (theepochtimes.com)

 

A good read and the webinar is a good listen.

 

1.7 million Americans died from the start of Covid to the end of Sept. That includes 200000 Covid deaths. That is a running normal of deaths in the US. We average 2.6 to 2.8 million deaths a year in the US. The interesting fact is the deaths of the average causes of death has gone down almost to the exact number of Covid deaths recorded. 

[fmccap]

2 hours ago, Decker said:

Johns Hopkins University Newspaper Pulls Down Article Questioning COVID-19 Death Tolls (theepochtimes.com)

 

A good read and the webinar is a good listen.

 

1.7 million Americans died from the start of Covid to the end of Sept. That includes 200000 Covid deaths. That is a running normal of deaths in the US. We average 2.6 to 2.8 million deaths a year in the US. The interesting fact is the deaths of the average causes of death has gone down almost to the exact number of Covid deaths recorded. 

Did I miss this on the local news?

[HotRunrGuy]

11 hours ago, Decker said:

Johns Hopkins University Newspaper Pulls Down Article Questioning COVID-19 Death Tolls (theepochtimes.com)

 

A good read and the webinar is a good listen.

 

1.7 million Americans died from the start of Covid to the end of Sept. That includes 200000 Covid deaths. That is a running normal of deaths in the US. We average 2.6 to 2.8 million deaths a year in the US. The interesting fact is the deaths of the average causes of death has gone down almost to the exact number of Covid deaths recorded. 

 

And then there's this;   https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/

 

HRG

[Decker]

https://web.archive.org/web/20201126223119/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19

 

There are as many discussions on the subject as there are opinion's. Then there are those that do the work of thinking for them selves and bring out even more discussion.

2013: 2,596,993 - 2014: 2,626,418

2015: 2,712,630 - 2016: 2,744,248

2017: 2,813,503 - 2018: 2,839,205

2019: 2,855,000 - 2020: as of 11/14 total deaths= 2,512,880

These totals can and are debatable but the end result is left to question the why and what people are dying from. Are the Covid totals in addition to the yearly average, normal or recorded death totals? Or have we found a cure for so many of the other causes of deaths?

 

"Maxwell  > Goddards Journal" 

"Excess" deaths is a meaningless rubric. Excess compared to what? For example let's say that last year in our village we had 200 deaths and this year we had 300 deaths. In our example let's assume we have the same population base for both years, exact same ages of populace and exact same health indices."

"Of course such a situation is never possible or even close but let's use it here. We could say that this year we had 100 excess deaths this year if we wanted to be crude in our analysis."                                                               "So where have these "excess" deaths come from in our example."
"What we see in our village is that in fact both years were very low death totals as a percent of population as the two years before we had 400 deaths each year with the same population numbers. So what gives? Is this year really an example of our village having 100 "excess" deaths? Of course not."

"You could literally invent hundreds of scenarios like this- that gets you a job at CNN."

"Now all of this is pure sophistry (which gets you a job at the CDC) as there can be and always are a multiplicity of factors."

"The figures given this year are going to be only slightly higher than the last twelve year's trends and the reasons for this have absolutely zero to do with a virus and all to do with deteriorating social conditions and an aging population. As you would expect there is no money in such an analysis as it would entail actually improving health which is not the mission of the CDC, NIH et al who are conduits for Pharma."

"Pharma BTW is often a throwaway term but at present they and Silicon Valley are the most powerful financial industries in the US- together they own US Media completely and Pharma is BY FAR the largest spending lobbying force in DC- doubling what is spent by the next biggest spender. That's called corruption."

 

Edited November 30, 2020 by Decker

[Decker]

https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/12/01/cnn-hey-guess-china-wasnt-honest-covid-19-response/

 

"CNN: Hey, Guess What? China Wasn’t Honest About Its COVID-19 Response... After All"

 

Imagine that 

[akirby]

On 11/28/2020 at 8:57 AM, Decker said:

https://web.archive.org/web/20201126223119/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19

 

There are as many discussions on the subject as there are opinion's. Then there are those that do the work of thinking for them selves and bring out even more discussion.

2013: 2,596,993 - 2014: 2,626,418

2015: 2,712,630 - 2016: 2,744,248

2017: 2,813,503 - 2018: 2,839,205

2019: 2,855,000 - 2020: as of 11/14 total deaths= 2,512,880

These totals can and are debatable but the end result is left to question the why and what people are dying from. Are the Covid totals in addition to the yearly average, normal or recorded death totals? Or have we found a cure for so many of the other causes of deaths?                                            

I show 2.672M through week 44 averaging 55K per week.  Another 8 weeks puts it well over 3.1M total deaths.  The weekly increase in March and April were huge.  So the estimate of an additional 250K deaths due to Covid is spot on even taking into account the annual increase in deaths due to population increase.

[Decker]

I guess the basis for skepticism on my part is the fact that we had a lowering of causes of death in heart diesease, influenza, pulmonary diesease, etc. and many age related dieseases, that have yet to be explained throught the same time frame as the starting of recording cause of death as, Covid. Then to take into consideration the reduction of all other causes of death as I listed as a total, then that total is reflected almost to the number of recorded Covid causes of death. Were we miss reading the true cuases of death? 

 

If you take your weeky average and multiply it by the remaining time in the calender year yes the math will prove your calculation. But once again there are to uncertain factors, first the average is not absolut. In indiana the death numbers vary widely on a day to day basis much less week to week. Then the under lying issue for my skepiticism is just based on multiple medical professionals in family and friends that discuss how these professionals are being instructed and in cases told not to fill out the proper paper work and another department head will fill out the offical cause of death.  

 

Basicly I have a personal side to my skepticism, when I was doing as I`ve done over the years as power of attorney for now 7 family members I was looking over the final paperwork and found no memntion of any subsequental medical conditions such as heart diesease, hyper tension or even the established medical condition of Alzheimer`s. Just COVID 19.

 

akirby, no conspiracy theorist here just looking at human nature. The truth is in the money as the old saying goes, recieve more of the truth for making a grey area statement is just human nature in all professions. Not to mention the grey area called politics. It is not hard to find out the amount a truth that is sent to medical facilities just by using a gray area responce on a death certificate. 

Edited December 1, 2020 by Decker

[Decker]

Study Finds Pervasive Negativity in Media Coverage of CCP Virus

BY MARK TAPSCOTT November 30, 2020 Updated: November 30, 2020

 

https://www.theepochtimes.com/study-finds-pervasive-negativity-in-media-coverage-of-ccp-virus_3599249.html

 

Imagine that, negativiity in the press has links too?  Oh and it took a study to fine negatitivity is being manipulated in the media?

Edited December 1, 2020 by Decker

[fuzzymoomoo]

1 hour ago, akirby said:

I show 2.672M through week 44 averaging 55K per week.  Another 8 weeks puts it well over 3.1M total deaths.  The weekly increase in March and April were huge.  So the estimate of an additional 250K deaths due to Covid is spot on even taking into account the annual increase in deaths due to population increase.

I need to verify it but I read recently that all cause mortality in the US was actually down this year compared to what it was predicted to be prior to the pandemic. 

[akirby]

57 minutes ago, Decker said:

I guess the basis for skepticism on my part is the fact that we had a lowering of causes of death in heart diesease, influenza, pulmonary diesease, etc. and many age related dieseases, that have yet to be explained throught the same time frame as the starting of recording cause of death as, Covid. Then to take into consideration the reduction of all other causes of death as I listed as a total, then that total is reflected almost to the number of recorded Covid causes of death. Were we miss reading the true cuases of death? 

 

If you take your weeky average and multiply it by the remaining time in the calender year yes the math will prove your calculation. But once again there are to uncertain factors, first the average is not absolut. In indiana the death numbers vary widely on a day to day basis much less week to week. Then the under lying issue for my skepiticism is just based on multiple medical professionals in family and friends that discuss how these professionals are being instructed and in cases told not to fill out the proper paper work and another department head will fill out the offical cause of death.  

 

Basicly I have a personal side to my skepticism, when I was doing as I`ve done over the years as power of attorney for now 7 family members I was looking over the final paperwork and found no memntion of any subsequental medical conditions such as heart diesease, hyper tension or even the established medical condition of Alzheimer`s. Just COVID 19.

 

akirby, no conspiracy theorist here just looking at human nature. The truth is in the money as the old saying goes, recieve more of the truth for making a grey area statement is just human nature in all professions. Not to mention the grey area called politics. It is not hard to find out the amount a truth that is sent to medical facilities just by using a gray area responce on a death certificate. 

Thats why I’m only looking at total deaths compared to previous years which takes the covid classification out of the picture.  There was a big spike in 2018 during a really bad flu season - 65k for a few weeks in January 2018.  Our spikes in April exceeded 70k and lasted longer.  Outside of flu outbreaks the total death data is very consistent year over year.  The last few months we have been below the 2018 flu outbreak numbers but higher than 2019.

 

While it’s possible there could be other causes at play I think it’s almost certain that covid is responsible for the excess deaths regardless of classifications or underlying causes.  I also think we are simply pulling ahead a lot of these deaths and that we’ll see a reduction over the next 2-3 years as a result.

 

I also think the surges are happening in areas that didn’t see them before.  At least in GA we’re not seeing repeat surges in specific areas.