Porsche's synthetic fuel as clean as EVs.

[blwnsmoke]

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/porsche-says-synthetic-fuel-could-181000252.html

 

Walliser claims the company’s synthetic fuel, which will be called eFuel, can be used in any combustion engine and is scheduled to start undergoing testing next year. The fuel is less complex than traditional gas—eight to 10 components compared to 30 to 40—allowing it to burn cleaner, with fewer particulates and NOx. Because of this, the total carbon footprint of the vehicle will be equal to that of an EV.

“Synthetic fuel is cleaner and there is no bi-product, and when we start full production we expect a CO2 reduction of 85 percent,” Walliser told the publication. “From a ‘well to wheel’ perspective—and you have to consider the well to wheel impact of all vehicles—this will be the same level of CO2 produced in the manufacture and use of an electric vehicle.”

[Harley Lover]

Cost?

[tbone]

Interesting. 

[probowler]

The other question, how is it produced and what are the energy requirements?

 

 

It's a really interesting concept, I'm looking forward to learning more.

[twintornados]

Another article that gives some more detail...

https://www.bosch.com/stories/synthetic-fuels/

[92merc]

Sounds similar to the "blue fuel" I read an article about.

[atomcat68]

2 hours ago, 92merc said:

Sounds similar to the "blue fuel" I read an article about.

I was thinking the same thing. I can't believe them at face value after the diesel scandal. 

[7Mary3]

So, we take carbon out of the atmosphere and combine it with hydrogen to make a hydrocarbon fuel, which sort of means the resulting fuel is 'carbon neutral'.  I guess.....

Doesn't sound any better than E85 if you figure in the photosynthesis of the plants grown to make the ethanol.

[probowler]

1 hour ago, 7Mary3 said:

So, we take carbon out of the atmosphere and combine it with hydrogen to make a hydrocarbon fuel, which sort of means the resulting fuel is 'carbon neutral'.  I guess.....

Doesn't sound any better than E85 if you figure in the photosynthesis of the plants grown to make the ethanol.

 

Well if it doesn't require crops or farmlands... You could in theory redirect those resources back to food production?

[Marc D.]

Will probably takes a few years of research to evaluate mass production possibilities.

[7Mary3]

On 3/1/2021 at 12:18 AM, probowler said:

 

Well if it doesn't require crops or farmlands... You could in theory redirect those resources back to food production?

 

You could, but in this country I think ethanol is produced from a feed stock corn.  You can make ethanol from a number of different plants.   

[FR739]

On 2/23/2021 at 11:46 AM, Harley Lover said:

Cost?

Probably cheaper and far better for the environment than battery mining.  This is a much better alternative than EVs.  All the benefits of gasoline, none of the major drawbacks with EVs, and can be used in any gasoline vehicle.  
 

Win/win  

[rperez817]

8 hours ago, FR739 said:

This is a much better alternative than EVs.  All the benefits of gasoline, none of the major drawbacks with EVs, and can be used in any gasoline vehicle.  

 

Next generation synfuels as described on the Bosch site that twintornados shared are better suited for aviation, oceangoing ships, and stationary power generation than for road vehicles.