rmc523 Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 2025 Ford Expedition Spotted For First Time With Big Changes (fordauthority.com) Looks like a 2009/2021 F-150 style "all new" in that the basic cab structure remains the same with a new front/rear clip and liftgate and interior. The off-centered fin antenna looks stupid. Not sure why they'd do that. Nice to see they moved to the hidden rear wiper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 https://www.motor1.com/news/666638/next-gen-ford-expedition-spied-for-first-time-boxy-dirty/?fbclid=IwAR1eJVDcoyr5mPv6wJhNrBqsrbV5t73nCml2f8keowohXHauGxjcxAHlYY0 I'm guessing Ford is going to be busy with releases till the end of next year, or at least that is what the rumor going around here was saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 About time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 The rear control arms look slightly different as well. They are bulkier and looks like the shocks are seated lower, like the gms rear control arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 16 hours ago, silvrsvt said: https://www.motor1.com/news/666638/next-gen-ford-expedition-spied-for-first-time-boxy-dirty/?fbclid=IwAR1eJVDcoyr5mPv6wJhNrBqsrbV5t73nCml2f8keowohXHauGxjcxAHlYY0 I'm guessing Ford is going to be busy with releases till the end of next year, or at least that is what the rumor going around here was saying. Weird, I posted this the other day but the thread appears to be gone...... ....oh. It seems even though I posted it here in the Ford Discussion section that someone moved it to the Expedition Forum for some reason....2025 Expedition Spied - Expedition Forum - Blue Oval Forums I'll copy my comments from that thread...... Looks like a 2009/2021 F-150 style "all new" in that the basic cab structure remains the same with a new front/rear clip and liftgate and interior. The off-centered fin antenna looks stupid. Not sure why they'd do that. Nice to see they moved to the hidden rear wiper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 36 minutes ago, rmc523 said: It seems even though I posted it here in the Ford Discussion section that someone moved it to the Expedition Forum for some reason Wasn’t me but his name rhymes with “vice charades”….. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, rmc523 said: Weird, I posted this the other day but the thread appears to be gone...... ....oh. It seems even though I posted it here in the Ford Discussion section that someone moved it to the Expedition Forum for some reason....2025 Expedition Spied - Expedition Forum - Blue Oval Forums I'll copy my comments from that thread...... Looks like a 2009/2021 F-150 style "all new" in that the basic cab structure remains the same with a new front/rear clip and liftgate and interior. The off-centered fin antenna looks stupid. Not sure why they'd do that. Nice to see they moved to the hidden rear wiper. I simply moved the topic from the Ford Discussion section to the Expedition forum where it belongs. No content was deleted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Now I'm finding that there's another thread on the same Expedition topic. To simplify the conversation, I'm going to merge the two threads in the Expedition Forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 After getting kick out several times due to site traffic, the two Expedition threads have now been merged into one and are located in the Expedition Forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 53 minutes ago, ice-capades said: I simply moved the topic from the Ford Discussion section to the Expedition forum where it belongs. No content was deleted. 40 minutes ago, ice-capades said: Now I'm finding that there's another thread on the same Expedition topic. To simplify the conversation, I'm going to merge the two threads in the Expedition Forum. Well, I had a reply typed out but it got deleted with the merge. Why are we moving this? It's Ford news. Moving things to individual subforums just hides them away where nobody goes, IMO. Another thread got created because it's Ford news and they didn't see the hidden away thread. By that logic, the main Ford discussion area should only have Ford monthly results. Guess the Ranger debut thread ought to go to the Ranger subforum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 37 minutes ago, rmc523 said: Well, I had a reply typed out but it got deleted with the merge. Why are we moving this? It's Ford news. Moving things to individual subforums just hides them away where nobody goes, IMO. Another thread got created because it's Ford news and they didn't see the hidden away thread. By that logic, the main Ford discussion area should only have Ford monthly results. Guess the Ranger debut thread ought to go to the Ranger subforum. This has been an ongoing debate. Personally I think new products go in the main forum while order guides, production info and product specific questions go in the product subforum. But we don’t have a hard and fast rule. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Let’s discuss amongst the moderators. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 4 hours ago, akirby said: This has been an ongoing debate. Personally I think new products go in the main forum while order guides, production info and product specific questions go in the product subforum. But we don’t have a hard and fast rule. Am I the only one who only looks at "all new content", rather than sub-forums? If there's activity in any forum, it shows up in new content. Why spend time looking anywhere else? HRG 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 1 hour ago, HotRunrGuy said: Am I the only one who only looks at "all new content", rather than sub-forums? If there's activity in any forum, it shows up in new content. Why spend time looking anywhere else? HRG That’s what I do but you’d be surprised how many don’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 On 5/10/2023 at 2:23 PM, rmc523 said: 2025 Ford Expedition Spotted For First Time With Big Changes (fordauthority.com) Looks like a 2009/2021 F-150 style "all new" in that the basic cab structure remains the same with a new front/rear clip and liftgate and interior. The off-centered fin antenna looks stupid. Not sure why they'd do that. Nice to see they moved to the hidden rear wiper. I saw this on Ford Authority and was disappointed by the news the main body structure appears like it will remain the same. I feel it is time for an update, as the current design has gotten very tired for me. The Expy is facing pretty stiff competition from GM and Jeep, and it makes me wonder if it is a victim of lost development funds to the EVs. I will be interested to see how “new” they can make it look with just a front clip change and another new tailgate. The side profile of the taillights has got to change to help it look new otherwise it will really look like they phoned it in on this redesign, IMO. As an aside, the frame and drivetrain on the Expy are excellent, so it wouldn’t seem necessary to devote a ton of resources to improving them, which should leave more for the exterior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 I actually think the frame needs to be reworked some. It maybe strong, but it allows too much flex compared to its competitors. The current trucks feel way to jiggly and shaky over some roads, this needs to change because it changes the perception of the vehicle, esp when getting into other vehicles afterward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 9 hours ago, tbone said: I saw this on Ford Authority and was disappointed by the news the main body structure appears like it will remain the same. I feel it is time for an update, as the current design has gotten very tired for me. The Expy is facing pretty stiff competition from GM and Jeep, and it makes me wonder if it is a victim of lost development funds to the EVs. I will be interested to see how “new” they can make it look with just a front clip change and another new tailgate. The side profile of the taillights has got to change to help it look new otherwise it will really look like they phoned it in on this redesign, IMO. I agree with you here. I was hoping for a full redesign, the side of the Expedition has always looked just a little aged to me. But I’m not surprised it’s just a heavy refresh. I wonder what that means for its platform twin, the Navigator. Full redesign or heavy refresh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) I can see why they left it alone. It's one of the safest vehicles on the market currently, so it maybe to help keep pillars a through c the same to keep its side crash test scores the same. I hope a lot of the r&d goes to better ride and handling performance. Edited May 12, 2023 by Dlcorbett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 15 hours ago, HotRunrGuy said: Am I the only one who only looks at "all new content", rather than sub-forums? If there's activity in any forum, it shows up in new content. Why spend time looking anywhere else? HRG I used to. But I didn't want new from all the subforums (I don't feel like having to "mark read" all the "what bulb does my Ford ____ take?" posts. I was able to edit the filters of the unread stuff once to just the subforums I wanted, but then I tried it again and I couldn't get it to work right - it wouldn't bring up threads that I knew had new content, so I gave up. 11 hours ago, tbone said: I saw this on Ford Authority and was disappointed by the news the main body structure appears like it will remain the same. I feel it is time for an update, as the current design has gotten very tired for me. The Expy is facing pretty stiff competition from GM and Jeep, and it makes me wonder if it is a victim of lost development funds to the EVs. I will be interested to see how “new” they can make it look with just a front clip change and another new tailgate. The side profile of the taillights has got to change to help it look new otherwise it will really look like they phoned it in on this redesign, IMO. As an aside, the frame and drivetrain on the Expy are excellent, so it wouldn’t seem necessary to devote a ton of resources to improving them, which should leave more for the exterior. I understand wanting to keep the same general body, but all sheetmetal should be new if they want to take that approach. I'll wait for the full reveal, but it disappointingly looks like they may have kept the same door skins, which would have been an easy way to help differentiate new from old, and not just new front/rear clips. At least with Mustang when they've done this, they've given it completely new skin all around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 45 minutes ago, rmc523 said: I understand wanting to keep the same general body, but all sheetmetal should be new if they want to take that approach. I'll wait for the full reveal, but it disappointingly looks like they may have kept the same door skins, which would have been an easy way to help differentiate new from old, and not just new front/rear clips. At least with Mustang when they've done this, they've given it completely new skin all around. Totally agree on the sheetmetal. I will wait and see as well, but I don’t have a good feeling about it. Perhaps being an also ran is acceptable to Ford, and they don’t actually want to challenge for the lead. It would be unfortunate, as the bones of the vehicle are very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 3 hours ago, rmc523 said: I understand wanting to keep the same general body, but all sheetmetal should be new if they want to take that approach. see also: 2024 Ranger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 https://www.carscoops.com/2023/05/ford-expedition-caught-testing-with-off-road-upgrades-hinting-at-upcoming-tremor-model/ Pics of the off road variant, whether it be the tremor or raptor trim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 https://www.autoevolution.com/news/rugged-ford-expedition-spied-could-be-the-off-road-ready-tremor-214939.html Looks like the max version will be getting the off road trim as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 15, 2023 Author Share Posted May 15, 2023 On 5/12/2023 at 4:35 PM, fuzzymoomoo said: see also: 2024 Ranger Yup. Through the camo, the sheetmetal on the doors looks pretty similar to the outgoing model, so hopefully they will have changed it to some degree. On 5/13/2023 at 7:26 AM, Dlcorbett said: https://www.carscoops.com/2023/05/ford-expedition-caught-testing-with-off-road-upgrades-hinting-at-upcoming-tremor-model/ Pics of the off road variant, whether it be the tremor or raptor trim. Well, Expy already has the Timberline model, that's what this look like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 https://fordauthority.com/2023/05/photos-suggest-2025-ford-expedition-interior-overhaul-coming/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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