Dlcorbett Posted March 27, 2024 Share Posted March 27, 2024 1 hour ago, joseodiaga4 said: agree, would be nice to see some consistency. The Navi must have air suspension, all the competitors have it so there is no excuse o reason to not have it Agreed, and if they don't, they don't listen to their customers like they say they do. Its odd too, ford and lincoln specifically were the first brand to add air suspension to their suvs, and when all their competitors added it, ford turns around and gets rid of it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew L Posted March 27, 2024 Share Posted March 27, 2024 3 minutes ago, Dlcorbett said: Agreed, and if they don't, they don't listen to their customers like they say they do. Its odd too, ford and lincoln specifically were the first brand to add air suspension to their suvs, and when all their competitors added it, ford turns around and gets rid of it It's also strange that the Aviator got it before the Navigator. Navigator is supposed to be the flagship. Aviator got a few things before the Navigator like heated/cooled 2nd row seating... and the MKT had that too. Navigator didn't get that till the most recent refresh. Odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 27, 2024 Share Posted March 27, 2024 8 minutes ago, Andrew L said: It's also strange that the Aviator got it before the Navigator. Navigator is supposed to be the flagship. Aviator got a few things before the Navigator like heated/cooled 2nd row seating... and the MKT had that too. Navigator didn't get that till the most recent refresh. Odd. Not strange at all. They decided to go all in on Aviator before the new Navigator got a new version. Just product cycle timing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 27, 2024 Share Posted March 27, 2024 2 hours ago, akirby said: The ergonomics and controls inconsistency between the full sized trucks/SUVs and other vehicles drives me nuts. With F series being the cash (and volume) cow they pretty much get to do whatever they want and the so do the other teams. Simple things like having the audio steering controls on the same side would help. My F150 is on the right while the Nautilus is on the left. Bronco is even worse - they put the volume controls on the left side and the previous/next track/station controls on the right side. It's obnoxious switching back and forth if you primarily drive with one hand. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted March 27, 2024 Share Posted March 27, 2024 4 hours ago, rmc523 said: Bronco is even worse - they put the volume controls on the left side and the previous/next track/station controls on the right side. It's obnoxious switching back and forth if you primarily drive with one hand. Yeah my other ford products where the opposite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted March 27, 2024 Author Share Posted March 27, 2024 5 hours ago, Andrew L said: It's also strange that the Aviator got it before the Navigator. Navigator is supposed to be the flagship. Aviator got a few things before the Navigator like heated/cooled 2nd row seating... and the MKT had that too. Navigator didn't get that till the most recent refresh. Odd. Agree, the Navi is supposed to be the flagship for Ford motor company but the decisions made left so much to be desired 5 hours ago, akirby said: Not strange at all. They decided to go all in on Aviator before the new Navigator got a new version. Just product cycle timing. Ok I understand that but the Navi got a refreshed for 2022 and didn't get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 27, 2024 Share Posted March 27, 2024 1 hour ago, joseodiaga4 said: Agree, the Navi is supposed to be the flagship for Ford motor company but the decisions made left so much to be desired Ok I understand that but the Navi got a refreshed for 2022 and didn't get it Key word - refresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted March 28, 2024 Share Posted March 28, 2024 1 hour ago, joseodiaga4 said: Agree, the Navi is supposed to be the flagship for Ford motor company but the decisions made left so much to be desired Ok I understand that but the Navi got a refreshed for 2022 and didn't get it I believe he meant the heated and cooled 2nd row seats. The nav did get those. They should've gotten those in 2018, but it wasnt a big feature at the time. I do think the belt line door handles would add to the navs prestige. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted March 28, 2024 Author Share Posted March 28, 2024 11 minutes ago, Dlcorbett said: I believe he meant the heated and cooled 2nd row seats. The nav did get those. They should've gotten those in 2018, but it wasnt a big feature at the time. I do think the belt line door handles would add to the navs prestige. Oh my bad, I was talking about air suspension 😅 18 minutes ago, akirby said: Key word - refresh. Yeah I get that but we have seen refreshed with that level of upgrade before, nevertheless I think they should have given the 2022 model air supension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted March 28, 2024 Share Posted March 28, 2024 They should've never gotten rid of it, atleast for the nav 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew L Posted March 28, 2024 Share Posted March 28, 2024 12 hours ago, Dlcorbett said: I believe he meant the heated and cooled 2nd row seats. The nav did get those. They should've gotten those in 2018, but it wasnt a big feature at the time. I do think the belt line door handles would add to the navs prestige. That's what I was referring to, Navigator should have gotten in in 2018 specially since the MKT had it as an option when it launched in 2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted May 22, 2024 Author Share Posted May 22, 2024 (edited) new spy pics https://fordauthority.com/2024/05/2025-lincoln-navigator-features-full-width-light-bar-pics/ Edited May 22, 2024 by joseodiaga4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew L Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 Not surprising it's getting a light bar. Just hope it looks smoother where the parts of the light bar meet. I know this is a pre-production model so it's a bit rough... just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 36 minutes ago, joseodiaga4 said: new spy pics https://fordauthority.com/2024/05/2025-lincoln-navigator-features-full-width-light-bar-pics/ I’m getting some nautilus vibes out of these pictures. I’m starting to feel good about this update. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted May 22, 2024 Author Share Posted May 22, 2024 24 minutes ago, tbone said: I’m getting some nautilus vibes out of these pictures. I’m starting to feel good about this update. yeah a lot of Nautilus vibes, both on the front and the back 48 minutes ago, Andrew L said: Not surprising it's getting a light bar. Just hope it looks smoother where the parts of the light bar meet. I know this is a pre-production model so it's a bit rough... just saying. yeah I guess it is going to be the same as the nautilus, this seems to be a bit rough. Also it seems to be not just 1 but 2 lines in the light bar: the turn signal seems to be like the 2025 Aviator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares Posted May 23, 2024 Share Posted May 23, 2024 (edited) Well I'm a few hours late, but excited to finally see more spy shots. Hopefully a reveal this summer Edited May 23, 2024 by Ares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted May 23, 2024 Share Posted May 23, 2024 (edited) Its coming together, It looks so good. I'm sure the light bar looks that way to help fine tune the lighting elements. Same for the running boards as they have been shown incomplete for all testers, so that tells me they're testing a particular aspect of that feature. I also noticed, the front bumper molds into the light applique, like how the spied mavericks front bumper does. Edited May 23, 2024 by Dlcorbett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted May 23, 2024 Share Posted May 23, 2024 The general shape reminds me of a Ram pickup front 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares Posted May 23, 2024 Share Posted May 23, 2024 6 hours ago, Andrew L said: Not surprising it's getting a light bar. Just hope it looks smoother where the parts of the light bar meet. I know this is a pre-production model so it's a bit rough... just saying. I wonder if they base model won't have the light bar in the middle and that's why it's disconnected in those spots 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 23, 2024 Share Posted May 23, 2024 (edited) 16 hours ago, joseodiaga4 said: yeah a lot of Nautilus vibes, both on the front and the back yeah I guess it is going to be the same as the nautilus, this seems to be a bit rough. Also it seems to be not just 1 but 2 lines in the light bar: Obviously, this was Navigator in those Aviator spy shots from months ago... 12 hours ago, Dlcorbett said: Its coming together, It looks so good. I'm sure the light bar looks that way to help fine tune the lighting elements. Same for the running boards as they have been shown incomplete for all testers, so that tells me they're testing a particular aspect of that feature. I also noticed, the front bumper molds into the light applique, like how the spied mavericks front bumper does. It's common for testing models to have the deployable running boards out. 10 hours ago, Ares said: I wonder if they base model won't have the light bar in the middle and that's why it's disconnected in those spots They're not going to make a single part the has both headlights and connecting lightbar all in one piece. Just realities of parts and assembly, even if it's not the ideal look. Edited May 23, 2024 by rmc523 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted May 23, 2024 Share Posted May 23, 2024 It's common for testing models to have the deployable running boards out. I was note referencing how the drivers side board doesn't sit along the frame fully, it's cut off about half way through the rear door. But it looks exactly like that photo from the aviator interior screenshot. I'm really excited for this vehicle, as long as ford didn't short change the feature content and nvh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 23, 2024 Share Posted May 23, 2024 33 minutes ago, Dlcorbett said: It's common for testing models to have the deployable running boards out. I was note referencing how the drivers side board doesn't sit along the frame fully, it's cut off about half way through the rear door. But it looks exactly like that photo from the aviator interior screenshot. I'm really excited for this vehicle, as long as ford didn't short change the feature content and nvh. Oh, I hadn't noticed that before. Interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted May 23, 2024 Author Share Posted May 23, 2024 4 hours ago, rmc523 said: Obviously, this was Navigator in those Aviator spy shots from months ago... I also thought that at first but after checking the photos again I am in doubt now haha could they have change it a bit? Check this out: The grille seems to be taller in the Aviator spy pics, and also the lower part seems different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 23, 2024 Share Posted May 23, 2024 1 hour ago, joseodiaga4 said: I also thought that at first but after checking the photos again I am in doubt now haha could they have change it a bit? Check this out: The grille seems to be taller in the Aviator spy pics, and also the lower part seems different Forgive my crude lines, I'm just using a snip tool with the mouse and it didn't go very pretty lol A few things that may be throwing you off: 1) Rendering/touched up AND pixelated/zoomed image, with a darkened scene vs. real world where you'll see all the support structure of every item. 2) chrome trim painted black in real world model, making it hard to delineate the horizontal lines seen on the real world one. 3) angle of the photo in the Aviator pic can distort the image, making it seem taller. 4) the rendering is from a few years ago now, IIRC, so it's possible there have been tweaks 5) the rendering seems to have a tighter mesh than the real thing, which will throw off the visual proportions. Otherwise, all the other lines look close enough to chalk it up to image distortion for me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 23, 2024 Share Posted May 23, 2024 (edited) I don't have the program right now to do a better side by side with a perspective shift like we see in the screen image. Edited May 23, 2024 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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