joseodiaga4 Posted June 13, 2024 Author Share Posted June 13, 2024 it seems they are a bit behind the latest news: https://fordauthority.com/2024/06/new-photos-suggest-2025-lincoln-navigator-has-split-liftgate/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew L Posted June 13, 2024 Share Posted June 13, 2024 Not surprising the Navigator would get it especially since the Expedition is getting it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 14, 2024 Share Posted June 14, 2024 17 hours ago, joseodiaga4 said: it seems they are a bit behind the latest news: https://fordauthority.com/2024/06/new-photos-suggest-2025-lincoln-navigator-has-split-liftgate/ They've mentioned it before, but they're constantly spitting out content, even if it's "FORD PRODUCTS NOW COME WITH WHEELS!" I appreciate the constant content, but some of the articles are like ....did we really need that article? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 14, 2024 Share Posted June 14, 2024 I'm guessing the reasoning behind the split lifgate is more for opening length purposes - since they're so long, the shorter liftgate lets it be opened in a shorter space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 14, 2024 Share Posted June 14, 2024 2 minutes ago, rmc523 said: I'm guessing the reasoning behind the split lifgate is more for opening length purposes - since they're so long, the shorter liftgate lets it be opened in a shorter space. Not to mention weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 14, 2024 Share Posted June 14, 2024 40 minutes ago, akirby said: Not to mention weight. IIRC, I think we've seen some Ford patents for a system to pull the cargo area out toward the opening which could offset the split liftgate. I wonder if we'll see that too, since the tailgate portion puts you farther away from the expansive cargo area when the seats are down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted June 14, 2024 Share Posted June 14, 2024 I also think it assists with making use of on power pro easier if it gets added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 14, 2024 Share Posted June 14, 2024 2 hours ago, Dlcorbett said: I also think it assists with making use of on power pro easier if it gets added. How so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 14, 2024 Share Posted June 14, 2024 6 minutes ago, rmc523 said: How so? Leaving just the top open to run the power cord instead of the entire hatch? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 14, 2024 Share Posted June 14, 2024 17 minutes ago, akirby said: Leaving just the top open to run the power cord instead of the entire hatch? Not sure how that accomplishes anything different than the liftglass from before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew L Posted June 14, 2024 Share Posted June 14, 2024 I wonder if both sections will be power operated. I imagine they will be on the Navi but wonder if the Expedition will be too in all forms. I wonder if the fobs on both will have separate buttons for the top section and the lower section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 14, 2024 Share Posted June 14, 2024 15 minutes ago, Andrew L said: I wonder if both sections will be power operated. I imagine they will be on the Navi but wonder if the Expedition will be too in all forms. I wonder if the fobs on both will have separate buttons for the top section and the lower section. I can only comment on my mom's BMW - yes, both sections are powered. There is one fob button that opens the top section only. The lower section gets opened via button push on the top of the lower section (when the upper part is open). Closing can be done via one touch of the button on the upper portion. BMW has a kick activated sensor too, but it is eliminated with the tow package (which my mom's has) so I can't comment on how that operates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted June 14, 2024 Share Posted June 14, 2024 2 hours ago, rmc523 said: Not sure how that accomplishes anything different than the liftglass from before. If the top section has a lower leftover then the glass does currently, it'll be easier to access the power panel, esp in relation to whatever you would be powering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted June 18, 2024 Share Posted June 18, 2024 What I like about single tailgates is sitting on the cargo floor edge, with the hatch open and shielding you if it's raining. The split-tail gate makes it a longer reach if things roll forward. Not to mention the complexity of it... I can't imagine this is any cheaper than the traditional method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 18, 2024 Share Posted June 18, 2024 4 minutes ago, ANTAUS said: What I like about single tailgates is sitting on the cargo floor edge, with the hatch open and shielding you if it's raining. The split-tail gate makes it a longer reach if things roll forward. Not to mention the complexity of it... I can't imagine this is any cheaper than the traditional method. Yup, that's been my point as well - the Navigator/Expy's rear cargo area is already long/massive (especially in the Max/L versions), this setup will only put you farther away from items at the front of the cargo area. Like I mentioned above, I do remember some patents for some sort of moving cargo floor to bring items outward - maybe we'll see some sort of trick setup to counteract this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted June 18, 2024 Share Posted June 18, 2024 By how Long ford is taking to reveal these monsters, I guess we'll never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 18, 2024 Share Posted June 18, 2024 26 minutes ago, Dlcorbett said: By how Long ford is taking to reveal these monsters, I guess we'll never know. Hopefully they do a quick turnaround between the debut and on-sale dates instead of the usual long drawn out waiting period. I've never understood why they debut something and wait a year to put it on sale, killing the initial excitement of the new model's debut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted June 18, 2024 Share Posted June 18, 2024 3 hours ago, rmc523 said: Yup, that's been my point as well - the Navigator/Expy's rear cargo area is already long/massive (especially in the Max/L versions), this setup will only put you farther away from items at the front of the cargo area. Like I mentioned above, I do remember some patents for some sort of moving cargo floor to bring items outward - maybe we'll see some sort of trick setup to counteract this issue. You do have a point there, they could be recouping costs by probably making that "power roll out tray" an added option... I can see that...people like to be wowed by the little things... add to it an optional "puppy staircase"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted June 21, 2024 Author Share Posted June 21, 2024 the reveal should be near https://www.carscoops.com/2024/06/2025-lincoln-navigator-channels-nautilus-with-less-chrome-sharper-looks/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 22 minutes ago, joseodiaga4 said: the reveal should be near https://www.carscoops.com/2024/06/2025-lincoln-navigator-channels-nautilus-with-less-chrome-sharper-looks/ I’m loving that front end 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted June 21, 2024 Author Share Posted June 21, 2024 7 minutes ago, Ares said: I’m loving that front end Me too, it looks very good. Sadly we don’t have any interior pic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew L Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 I like the aggressive more upright front end instead of it just sloping back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 2 hours ago, joseodiaga4 said: the reveal should be near https://www.carscoops.com/2024/06/2025-lincoln-navigator-channels-nautilus-with-less-chrome-sharper-looks/ Lincoln has one of the best front end designs in the business right now. Their unique light bar emulating the wings of an airplane, the grille shape, the headlights, it's all perfect. This is a massive improvement over the current navigator, which is attractive, but a little lumpy and soft looking in some areas. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 1 hour ago, Andrew L said: I like the aggressive more upright front end instead of it just sloping back. Agreed, gives it a real assertive look. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted June 22, 2024 Share Posted June 22, 2024 The headrests look to have speakers in them. Looks like either the full led bar in the grille will be an option or for the black label. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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