Could be hard to prove without GPS data, but VW's diesel scam was ultimately discovered, so perhaps this case will get solved as well. I would think that Hinton should have questioned his odometer readings after only a week or so of ownership; the milage was off by over half. Maybe he was ecstatic over getting 700 miles between charges?

Third world is defined as...  " one that is economically underdeveloped, often characterized by high poverty rates, economic instability, and limited access to basic necessities like healthcare and education"

Oh I know it's more complicated than that.  Just saying.....   They definitely shouldn't be considered a "3rd world country" at this point.

I would say that's much more than moderately successful.  $500k/year is a very large sum of money, and something even most very successful self-employed business owners don't touch.

I guess jacking up / lifting a Legacy is no longer part of the design process....

Work backwards from what we know. Europe is stuck with MEB for one product cycle only and will then want replacements for Explorer and Capri. Europe will also want a BEV Transit Connect Van and passenger version,  plus a BEV pickup to take some load off T6 Ranger. On top of that, Europe also supplies vehicles to loads of other markets. Huge potential.   Even though CE1 appears limited with the three vehicles originally mentioned, there is a lot of potential there for what I’d call aggressive regionalisation……if you follow that thinking, Europe and North American vehicles could have a lot of differentiation style wise  so there’s a lot to be positive about.

So we know as a result of both your comments, and those of others that CE1 is gonna be pretty limited at first, a truck, utility, and maybe a van. But do you believe if the platform turns out to be a smashing success that they'll use it to spin off off models, maybe things that are more enthusiast oriented over time? 

The point being that Ford went to VW as a way of getting those affordable BEVs that it simply couldn’t do itself. MEBs turned out to be both expensive to make and uninteresting blobs than Ford knows are boring to buyers. There is nothing aspirational in these vehicles and now Ford wants to add ST or RS to them to help push sales… That I believe is the main thrust of the linked article, nothing to do with the coming CE1s.

I filled up at the Murphy Oil at the Walmart in Sapulpa for $2.40/gal for E10/87 earlier this evening. I had a feeling gas prices were falling when I saw the QuikTrips were at $2.79 (QT’s gas prices are usually higher than Snoop Dogg on Willie Nelson’s tour bus).

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