I was poking around on Ford.com the other day looking at MME GTs-I live in an area that has pretty good EV penetration and MMEs where very scare in any dealership-they where lucky to have one or two in stock.    The MME is a good car but Ford can't make money on it and can't fix that and I'm not sure what they can do change that, even moving it to the CE1 platform.   I think Ford is looking at the CE1 not possibly performing as well as they hoped, due to the way the market is. Best case is the market accepts it, but I have this nagging feeling that people (at least in the US) aren't going to unless they are forced to, either through regulations or gas pricing.    There is just so much uncertainty in the automotive market in the near future and affordability, even for ICE products, isn't helping either. 

This morning's updated gas prices in Hamden, CT 06514 (Greater New Haven) $3.76 Regular (Cash or Credit) @ Oasis (Independent - NOT Gulf) No Change $3.89 Regular (Cash) @ Sunoco (Reduced $0.10 from $3.99) $4.06 Regular (Cash) @ Citgo No Change

Just spit balling here, assume that base is RWD like Mach E but maybe 75% of the weight and therefore 75% of Mach E’s std range battery (72 Kwhr) so 54 kwhr? Ultimately, I’m estimating roughly 230/240 miles for base RWD version.    

It blows my mind that he said that. 

25k is still too high for this. Under 20k is where this needs to be.  These are a few examples of vehicles that cost less than 25k: chevy cruz toyota corolla nissan kicks multiple Hyundais and kias   imagine if these were all bare bones AND made out of plastic AND they all rolled off the assembly line exactly the same. They’d be closer to 15k.       

I feel like the design isn’t aging that great. It was a great car for Ford to make, and it had to happen but its ultimately limited (like the F-150 Lightning).    It’s irrelevant but I’m still baffled by that one guy on the Mach E forum who said Ford focusing on affordability was a “big miss” for UEV. 

Livery market is what the MB big shots are targeting for VLE in Europe, but they're not as sure for the U.S.:   "Mercedes executives use the phrase "Grand Limousine" for the luxury-focused versions of the VLE. The VLE's stateside arrival is targeted for the second half of 2027. Many details remain in flux. While Mercedes executives are confident that the commercial car-service market will command 80 percent of European sales, they're less sure about the U.S. mix between car service and personal use."   Wouldn't be surprised if the majority of U.S. VLE sales are also livery/limo/commercial car-service. A lot of limo companies up in Chicago have gussied up MB Sprinters in their fleet.    

Sorry, that looks just plain ugly..... #hardno

Yea, exactly. So much for the startup spirit that Model e division supposedly espoused with MME and F-150 Lightning, and of achieving their goal of building the future as Ford's center of innovation and growth. 🙄   Hopefully the launch of CE1/UEV products will finally mark a turn away from this defeatist attitude that's infected Ford for decades (the source of the company's "rot on the vine disease")   

I agree on a lot of this, but I feel like there are concepts within Ford that are worth evolving because they show promise even if their initial execution was flawed. The mach-e falls under that umbrella.    It can't match something like the edge sales numbers, but it sold well relative to most other comparable EVs from established brands for quite some time. It's fallen off recently, but that's because newer, more compelling products have come out.    Things like the driving dynamics and styling were very well received. I just wish Ford applied those positive attributes to a gen 2 variant that overcame the negative qualities of the first gen mach-e by using the far superior CE1 platform as a base. It just feels like a sexy coupe styled EV from Ford that was even more affordable for consumers, yet profitable for Ford, makes a lot of sense. Like the concept surrounding the mach-e is a good one, and Ford should give it another go with a cost efficient platform before throwing in the towel.