snooter Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 thought has crossed my mind seriously in the past 2 weeks...why..ford refuses to toss any bone as too engines or upgrades to the 2010 mustang....i wanted a gt350 or a boss....but the new challenger in B5 blue with shaker hood is just calling me....buy me...buy me...i could be swayed if ford at least pushes a little information out the door about the new boss or gt350....new challenger in blue sure does look good however Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 thought has crossed my mind seriously in the past 2 weeks...why..ford refuses to toss any bone as too engines or upgrades to the 2010 mustang....i wanted a gt350 or a boss....but the new challenger in B5 blue with shaker hood is just calling me....buy me...buy me...i could be swayed if ford at least pushes a little information out the door about the new boss or gt350....new challenger in blue sure does look good however So if Ford were to release pictures and specs today you would wait? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford-150 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 (edited) i liked the challenger until i found out it had an open rear diff with that much power i still like the looks of it better than the Camaro also the current mustang is almost as good as the SRT8 Challenger, if the stang "does" get the new "5.0L" im pretty sure it's over Edited March 29, 2008 by Ford-150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 (edited) i liked the challenger until i found out it had an open rear diff with that much power That's retarded. Someone should be fired over that. I could see having an open diff on the V6 models (if they ever see the light of day), but not the SRT8s. Edited March 29, 2008 by P71_CrownVic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 i liked the challenger until i found out it had an open rear diff with that much power i still like the looks of it better than the Camaro also the current mustang is almost as good as the SRT8 Challenger, if the stang "does" get the new "5.0L" im pretty sure it's over Thats OK, when the stability control is on, it will cut all the power anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 if that's what you want to buy, go ahead. It's your money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipwright Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 It's funny that a lot of people (GM and Mopar fans) are giving Ford a hard time for cheapening out by putting a SLA in the back of the Mustang. But here we have Chryco going to the expense of putting an IRS in the Callenger but neglecting to give it a limited slip differential. Talk about penny pinching. Denis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 (edited) That's retarded. Someone should be fired over that. I could see having an open diff on the V6 models (if they ever see the light of day), but not the SRT8s. It's funny that a lot of people (GM and Mopar fans) are giving Ford a hard time for cheapening out by putting a SLA in the back of the Mustang. But here we have Chryco going to the expense of putting an IRS in the Callenger but neglecting to give it a limited slip differential. Talk about penny pinching. Denis Limited slip available this summer for '09 MY. (Only the small limited run '08's do not have limited slip.) So, yes. You can get a 6-speed with limited slip rear....in a matter of months. Edited March 29, 2008 by Intrepidatious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaydez Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 (edited) The Challanger is WAY to heavy. The SRT-8 is only marginally faster than a Mustang GT. Thr problem with the Challanger is that they based a "muscle car" coupe off a large sedan platform. It would be like if the Mustang was based on the Panther platform. Chrystler went to cheap designing it. They needed to start with a fresh platform for it that didn't weigh more than 2 tons. Edited March 29, 2008 by jaydez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02MustangGT Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Limited slip available this summer for '09 MY. (Only the small limited run '08's do not have limited slip.) So, yes. You can get a 6-speed with limited slip rear....in a matter of months. That's interesting. Why didn't they build it like that to begin with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 Pony Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 (edited) You know, the Challenger is very tempting. They did a heckuva better job on it than GM did on the Crapmaro IMHO. You know Chrysler - they bring out occasional hits like the LX's and maybe the '09 Ram and now possibly the Challenger but everything else sucks. Once the V6's come out I can see Challenger placing 2nd to Mustang and Crapmaro 3rd. But I just could not see myself abandoning Mustang - even though I could never see myself owning one again because I am now the middle aged demographic that wants speed as well as luxury. :shades: *cough*new thunderbird*cough* Hell, the only piece of jewelry I wear is a gold Mustang around my neck! (small - tasteful - 14k - and I do NOT have a mullet) It is so nice to see not only the other two of the Big Three but also the foreign pieces of crap chasing Ford and not being able to get that market - no matter how small it may be be. Edited March 29, 2008 by 96 Pony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettech Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Don't rule anything out until you kick the tires and drive it. I didn't marry my wife because of her looks alone.... :happy feet: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 The Challanger is WAY to heavy. The SRT-8 is only marginally faster than a Mustang GT. Thr problem with the Challanger is that they based a "muscle car" coupe off a large sedan platform. It would be like if the Mustang was based on the Panther platform. Chrystler went to cheap designing it. They needed to start with a fresh platform for it that didn't weigh more than 2 tons. Actually they stayed very true to the original Challenger which was built off the mid-size Charger. The specs of the new Challenger are not that far from the '70. The Challenger was one of the biggest "Pony Cars"when it was new. Of course, the Mustang had grown substantially by '69. The new Challenger is more of a Muscle Car than Pony Car. Chrysler simply didn't have another RWD platform and starting fresh would have been far too expensive for a relatively low production model. Initally Dodge will sell all the Challengers they will build. I don't believe it will still be around in 5 years. The Mustang will adapt to the changing market as it has for 44 years. It will survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSOLVER Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Eldest niece needs wheels and her father liked the Dodges. I have no hesitation saying a great car for a 19 yo entering post secondary. As to the SRT8, there is no doubt they will sell them all to the equivelant of the Shelby gang. Would I? NO FARKIN WAY! I buy cars for driving now, and that is all about the show. Just like $helby,any super Camaro, the new ZR1 and the nissan GT_R. I really like the next CTS-V though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydro Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 Shit, for the 15k mark-up the Challenger is trying to get just get the Stang GT, throw a Kenne Bell supercharger on at a modest 3psi for around $5k. It will be a safe tune and rip the challeger a new poop chute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calypsocoral Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 Initally Dodge will sell all the Challengers they will build. I don't believe it will still be around in 5 years. The Mustang will adapt to the changing market as it has for 44 years. It will survive. I think the same could be said of the 6.1L HEMI powertrain. I think making the first crop of 08 Challengers "SRT-ONLY" is a way to fire-sale those suckers off. I heard somewhere that a 5.9L HEMI with VVT (courtesy of the new Viper) might be the engine of choice for the next SRT-8. I'll post a link if I can find more info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHV 16V Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I think they did a great job considering what they had to work with. The car looks cool and true to the original, much like the current Mustang we all love. I have no problem admitting that I'll be going to look and test drive one if I do not like something that's been done with the 2010 'Stang. But I do, however, think that anyone shopping for one of the three new upcoming muscle cars would be foolish not to wait for a little bit longer until they can see some comparison tests and drive the vehicles themselves back-to-back. Unless, of course you've already decided due to brand loyalty or some other reason, in which case, go get it (when it's available) and I wish you good luck with whatever you decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I heard somewhere that a 5.9L HEMI with VVT (courtesy of the new Viper) might be the engine of choice for the next SRT-8. I'll post a link if I can find more info. last I saw the Viper was going away in the next year or two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHV 16V Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 last I saw the Viper was going away in the next year or two You're right, it's gone. I've read that in many places too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calypsocoral Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 last I saw the Viper was going away in the next year or two My apologies, I didn't mean to imply that the HEMI I was talking about came from the Viper, but that the VVT mechanism used in it was. Yes, the Viper is getting the axe, as well as any trace of the 8.4L V10 pounding within it. On another note, it is worth noting that the 5.7L HEMI in the 2009 Challenger R/T does use that VVT mechanism. My point still remains that the 6.1L in the SRT8 is pretty much at the end of its rope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCSpeedster Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 (edited) i dig the stone white challenger.. reminds me of the one from vanishing point. they have one in one of the movies from grindhouse (the one with kurt russell), too. you guys seen it? what do you guys think? Edited April 2, 2008 by DCSpeedster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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