blazerdude20 Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suvs/1...rive/index.html "The biggest change, though, is that you no longer have to buy one of the bottom-feeder trim levels to get four-cylinder fuel economy. The 2.5 is available all the way up to the Escape Limited and Mercury Mariner Premier versions. Small engines are big now, even with buyers who can afford more. Ford even removed the "V-6" badge from so-equipped '09 models as if it has become a badge of extravagance and disregard for the environment and global oil supply." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 MotorTrash proves again why the magazine industry is in jeopardy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerM Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suvs/1...rive/index.html "Ford even removed the "V-6" badge from so-equipped '09 models as if it has become a badge of extravagance and disregard for the environment and global oil supply." I saw an Excursion yesterday with a license plate that reads "OBNOXOUS". Obviously letter limited, but I loved it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 I saw an Excursion yesterday with a license plate that reads "OBNOXOUS". Obviously letter limited, but I loved it anyway. Im sure that was a big FU to the greenies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smok Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 "Ford anticipates EPA mileage will be up 1-mpg city, 1-mpg highway, whether you get the four, the V-6 or the hybrid." "Ford claims the lower-front air dam saves 3/4-mpg at 70 mph" So does this mean that putting the 2.5 with the new 6 spd only gives us 1/4 additional mpg, since the front air dam gives us the 3/4 for a total increase of 1mpg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 First Drive? I dont see anything indicating they drove it...it seems as if they copy and pasted Fords media release?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smok Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Im sure that was a big FU to the greenies Yea, FU to the greenies, but who is getting f'ed at the gas pump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Yea, FU to the greenies, but who is getting f'ed at the gas pump? obviously a non-issue to the person driving the Excursion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salsakingcpa Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 (edited) Until they get tired of burning cash. QUOTE (J-150) I am a dummy Edited May 17, 2008 by salsakingcpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theVengineguy Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 It was a fair write up. They didn't really bash the Escape that much. If anything this evaluation is a positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smok Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 It was a fair write up. They didn't really bash the Escape that much. If anything this evaluation is a positive. It might be enough improvement to fight the CRV for the #1 spot.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danup Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 "Ford anticipates EPA mileage will be up 1-mpg city, 1-mpg highway, whether you get the four, the V-6 or the hybrid." "Ford claims the lower-front air dam saves 3/4-mpg at 70 mph" So does this mean that putting the 2.5 with the new 6 spd only gives us 1/4 additional mpg, since the front air dam gives us the 3/4 for a total increase of 1mpg? The air dam helps on gas at highway speeds, whereas--if I remember correctly--the six speed is geared so that it's basically identical to the four-speed at highway speeds. Presumably the 2.5 and the six-speed are what bump up city mileage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 "Ford anticipates EPA mileage will be up 1-mpg city, 1-mpg highway, whether you get the four, the V-6 or the hybrid." "Ford claims the lower-front air dam saves 3/4-mpg at 70 mph" So does this mean that putting the 2.5 with the new 6 spd only gives us 1/4 additional mpg, since the front air dam gives us the 3/4 for a total increase of 1mpg? Well, considering that the max speed reached in the EPA test cycle, I believe, is still only 60 mph, the full affect of the airdam change would not really be noticed in its advertised fuel economy ratings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Actually, new EPA test regime goes to 80mph. Also, kudos to Ford for making the fancy goodies available to 4-cylinder buyers. I'm quite impressed by that move. It echoes what they did with the Fusion/Milan, and what Honda & Toyota have been doing for years. That plus Ford equaling the CR-V's mileage should give Ford even more momentum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sranger Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Actually, new EPA test regime goes to 80mph. Also, kudos to Ford for making the fancy goodies available to 4-cylinder buyers. I'm quite impressed by that move. It echoes what they did with the Fusion/Milan, and what Honda & Toyota have been doing for years. That plus Ford equaling the CR-V's mileage should give Ford even more momentum. I cant agree more with you there Richard. The auto manufactures are going to have to offer loaded cars at the lower end of the size and hp ( i.e. higher milage ) cars to be competative. I honestly believe that a telescoping wheel would get a lot more men to buy the Mariner/Escape as well. I think that the biggest growth area in the next few years will be smaller vehicles with more sound proofing, better ride and handling, better interiors and more options... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbmphil Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 The 2.5 in this vehicle is MORE than adequate for its intended purpose. I was pretty impressed with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford-150 Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suvs/1...rive/index.html "The biggest change, though, is that you no longer have to buy one of the bottom-feeder trim levels to get four-cylinder fuel economy. The 2.5 is available all the way up to the Escape Limited and Mercury Mariner Premier versions. Small engines are big now, even with buyers who can afford more. Ford even removed the "V-6" badge from so-equipped '09 models as if it has become a badge of extravagance and disregard for the environment and global oil supply." that's fucking retarded! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 You can go online and find a V6 label, and slap onto your car. The few cents they saved, are spent making those non-functional side portholes. I dont see anyone peeling off their V6 or V8 badges from their cars anytime soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89-Pony Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Why does Ford insist on putting drum brakes on this thing? My 2005 Escape XLT has disc brakes, and they are impressive. Ford products have been bottom-of-the-list for braking in every comparison test I have seen lately. They are doing a great job on all of their new products, except for the braking. You have to choose to be # 1 in your target market, or you shouldn't be in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme4x4 Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 The rear drum brakes in my '03 Tribute work great. Having discs, just for the sake of saying you have discs is stupid. Now, if your braking distances are poor, you have to look at why, and fix it. To just say "putting discs on it will solve the problem," is simplistic. I remember back in the day, in the early 90's, when the Camaro and Mustang comparisons were in every magazine.............. the Mustang would always, initially, be blasted for having rear drums. Then, when they consistantly stopped shorter, with less fade than the Camaro's.............. the tune would change. For the most part, tires have been Fords biggest problem with their braking distances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericgrau Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Wow 240 HP out of a 3.0 v6 sounds pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 (edited) The six-speed automatic (a five-speed manual remains standard with the four) smoothens the power delivery, and there's none of the hunting for gears of the old 2.3-liter/four-speed auto combo. Acceleration matches the '08's 200-horsepower V-6/four-speed auto combination, at 10.4 seconds for 0-60 mph, Ford says. Escape 2.5 6-speed auto goes like last year's V6 4 speed auto but also increases it's fuel economy. Good move Ford! Edited May 18, 2008 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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