blazerdude20 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 link Ford will adapt its Ecoboost concept to a three-cylinder 0.9 and 1.2-liter engines for the Fiesta and upcoming Focus. At 1.2-liters, the engine will be capable of about 135 horsepower and 135 lb-ft of torque from about 1500 rpm. The engine will be available in the Fiesta from its mid-cycle facelift around three years from now. In Europe it will eventually go into the Focus too, replacing the current 1.6 and 1.8-liter four-cylinder gas engines, but it will probably be considered too small for a U.S. Focus. Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_ne...l#ixzz0brhD7TME i think the 1.2l will be fine for the US, the engine has about the same power as the current 2l with a better tq curve and less weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 link i think the 1.2l will be fine for the US, the engine has about the same power as the current 2l with a better tq curve and less weight. is the 1.2 ( which I have heard about before from an insider ) a 3 cyl as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I just wonder how they'll run and if they'll be "buzzy" sounding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I'm going to guess they'll have a pretty harsh tone and a crankshaft with (comparatively) big counterweights, and a (comparatively) hefty flywheel to smooth power delivery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfeg Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 With proper design and balance shafts they should be no worse than the current I4s. Small engines such as this will be common here by about 2014 and 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 is the 1.2 ( which I have heard about before from an insider ) a 3 cyl as well? Its really the 1.25 I4 found in EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Its really the 1.25 I4 found in EU. good, my frontal lobes are having a tough time accepting 3 cylinders....mental hurdle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I'd prefer a 1.2 EB over the current 1.6 going to be offered in the Fiesta. Assuming the Focus doesn't get a lot heavier in the next generation, I'd be fine with 120HP. With as flat a torque curve as it will probably have, it would be better than the 2.0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 good, my frontal lobes are having a tough time accepting 3 cylinders....mental hurdle... What about 5 like the Acura Vigor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 they better...gen Y (18-30yr olds) in latest market research shows high MPG and value as top 2 concerns for that age group..styling and porformance no where to be found...electric vehicles was at only 12 percent..gas hybrids topped list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 What about 5 like the Acura Vigor? answer...they still make it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 (edited) answer...they still make it? Plenty of successful cars use 5 cyl engines... Vigor? Oops bad example. Colorado/Canyon? Uh oh... Edited January 6, 2010 by PREMiERdrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Plenty of successful cars use 5 cyl engines... Vigor? Oops bad example. Colorado/Canyon? Uh oh... :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Chuckle. Gave the software guy a lot to think about early last year. They have 4, 6, 8 and 10 cylinders all worked out ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itguy09 Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 they better...gen Y (18-30yr olds) in latest market research shows high MPG and value as top 2 concerns for that age group..styling and porformance no where to be found...electric vehicles was at only 12 percent..gas hybrids topped list At 34 I'm glad I'm not in Gen Y. Performance, Style, MPG, Quality, and Value are my top priories. Then again I prefer to think for myself and even though I'm in IT, I think social media is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itguy09 Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Plenty of successful cars use 5 cyl engines... Vigor? Oops bad example. Colorado/Canyon? Uh oh... According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight-5 Almost all Volvos run some sort of straight 5 - a quick trip to Volvo's website shows this to be fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 chebby s10 has a 5?...old geo metro had a 3...i think thats right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight-5 Almost all Volvos run some sort of straight 5 - a quick trip to Volvo's website shows this to be fact. I intentionally left Volvo off the list to make the joke work :shades: I think they're the only mainstream I5 available in the US today - right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I intentionally left Volvo off the list to make the joke work :shades: I think they're the only mainstream I5 available in the US today - right? yup......but its best application IMO is actually in Ford...alas not here.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofford Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I intentionally left Volvo off the list to make the joke work :shades: I think they're the only mainstream I5 available in the US today - right? No, unless your definition of "mainstream" would not include the VW Golf and Jetta, which use a 2.5 L five as their base engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 No, unless your definition of "mainstream" would not include the VW Golf and Jetta, which use a 2.5 L five as their base engines. how dare you mention those POS on BON..................we have one out back that, you guessed it, burst into flames due to electrical issues, owner tried to douse the flames with DIRT!....talk abouit a melted mess.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 how dare you mention those POS on BON..................we have one out back that, you guessed it, burst into flames due to electrical issues, owner tried to douse the flames with DIRT!....talk abouit a melted mess.... PLEASE share some pictures, Dean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 (edited) PLEASE share some pictures, Dean! if its still here tommorow i will, however i cannot for some reason download shots onto Bon...but I can send you the shots personally and you could perhaps post em....its a mess....DIRT of all things too....and I'll get the whole scoop on what actually happened...apparently it involves a bad oil fill at Easy Lube as well..... Edited January 7, 2010 by Deanh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofford Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 how dare you mention those POS on BON..................we have one out back that, you guessed it, burst into flames due to electrical issues, owner tried to douse the flames with DIRT!....talk abouit a melted mess.... Whether they are a POS or not, they do have five-cylinder engines --or at least came with them from the factory, before they melted down into an unrecognizable blob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I remember the Vigors engine, it was I believe a 2.5L 5 Cylinder. Only last one product cycle. I dont see why Honda would waste money to develop such an engine unless they outsourced it from, hmmm Volvo maybe? Supposedly Volvos 5-cylinder was designed from the get go with being able to do diesel if need be. It's worked for Volvo, Ford EU adopted it into some of their products. Vigors optional engine was a 3.2L 6 cylinder which I believe it later phased into the 3.2L TL. Supposedly volvo claims better grash worthiness because there's more vacant space forward of the engine from this layout. But at the same time it requires more counterbalancers to cope with the uneveness of it. I do remember the claims Honda had back then in a Vigor brochure, they said V6 power with I4 fuel economy, same as GM did with their 5 cylinder engine, but in real world situations it did neither. Same goes with the Volvo engine which doesn't accomplish either unless you strap a turbo onto it. Im not sure how the 3 cylinder will be received, I dont think many will notice once you strap a turbo on it it'll make up for any doubts I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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