2005Explorer Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Those small windows are undoubtedly there to allow the roll-down windows to function properly. There is no way Ford would go to the expense of adding that kind of cost to a vehicle unless it were necessary. Ok because normally your mirror would go there and fill in the triangle? I can understand that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 Ok because normally your mirror would go there and fill in the triangle? I can understand that. The alternative is to just fill it with plastic. I'll take glass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 What is up with those micro-windows anyhow? Windows have always rolled down in front all the way without them on every other car. I'm not saying they are a big issue, just wonder what their purpose is. I don't think some greenhouse commonality will be an issue at all since the rest of the car is very different. This is not a typical current gen MKZ or MKX rebadge at all. All I am saying is if you honestly think you will never be able to tell they share a platform no matter how hard you look you might be disappointed. Now if you have to look REAL hard to find the similarities then Ford has done an awesome job of making two cars out of one. The Bentley Continental GT (and GTC) have small windows in the front like that: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) Now I'm just eager to see this design on a Lincoln Crossover. Chop Chop Lincoln, I have only a year until my lease is up and I want a full-width taillight back! Edited January 10, 2012 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Ok because normally your mirror would go there and fill in the triangle? I can understand that. Yep. That's it. You've been living with that concession for years, but never noticed it because the mirror was there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) Didn't see anyone else do it so I figured I would. So apparently a lot of people think these look identical? Edited January 10, 2012 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme4x4 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Oooh.............. oooh, I know (raises hands enthusiastically) !!!! They are both a shade of red. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 One year ago — his first week on the job — Wolff sat down with Ford design chief Moray Callum for a briefing on what was working and what was not. "(Callum) flippantly said we should create a unique Lincoln studio and I immediately said 'yes,'" Wolff recalled. Callum confirmed the story, adding: "We need to emphasize the distinctiveness. If the engineering is different, design should be, too." The Lincoln studio, with about 200 employees, is "like a think tank for Lincoln," said Tobin, and has great support from Ford's top management. "The chemistry of the team is great. Lincoln is no longer a family divided," O'Donnell said. While his colleagues work on the new lineup of cars, O'Donnell must sell he image of a rejuvenated Lincoln. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Oooh.............. oooh, I know (raises hands enthusiastically) !!!! They are both a shade of red. :D In fairness, the rear 3/4s does emphasize the shared structural engineering in the roof. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 In fairness, the rear 3/4s does emphasize the shared structural engineering in the roof. Most people won't notice that, especially with the window changes (6th window etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbalek Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) A few things I noticed missing here: no Lincoln emblem on the decklid or front fenders. Current Lincolns have a total of FOUR logos on the exterior, which is a bit excessive! Also, unlike recent concepts, this is no model nameplate anywhere on the vehicle. Does anyone see "MKZ" anywhere in these pics? I wonder if they're considering renaming the new MKZ... Also the "new" logo is not on the new MKS and MKT. Edited January 10, 2012 by hbalek 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT-Keith Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 How the decklid transitions into the C-pillar reminds me of the 2012 Acura TL. This is one aspect of the TL that I didn't like. Proportionately It's a good design, but the side skirts in the profile shots look as though they're lower than the rear bumper. The result is that it looks more forward-leaning than FWD cars are typically. The concept MKZ doesn't look as good as the production Fusion in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnV Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) I think it's a beautiful car. I'd love to see it in black. I hope the production model is as beautiful (remembering the difference between the Zephyr concept/production models and how disappointed I was). Some of the comments I've been reading on various sites make me laugh - are we looking at the same car? This is the company that brought out the MKT after all. Edit - one more thing.......the production car deserves a true name to identify it - not a sequence of letters. Edited January 10, 2012 by LincolnV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NNRT Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Now I'm just eager to see this design on a Lincoln Crossover. Chop Chop Lincoln, I have only a year until my lease is up and I want a full-width taillight back! Me too ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 How the decklid transitions into the C-pillar reminds me of the 2012 Acura TL. This is one aspect of the TL that I didn't like. +1. I don't like it here either. But that's the only part of the exterior that I don't like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) Was more hopeful of something a bit more squared off like the photoshop we saw yesterday (or at least what was represented by that wacky view). But I still like it. Side note: The first thing I thought of when I saw the thick chrome window surrounds and the rear quarter window though was Malibu. (NO, I don't think the car looks like a Malibu for those just looking at the image I posted! ) However, I like the car (and even the rear quarter window). I see a lot of family resemblance to the MKS in the front quarter view with the high expanse of sheetmetal. Not sure what to make of that thing under the rear window though? Edited January 10, 2012 by Intrepidatious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Man I do NOT like the rear end of that lincoln, I think I would much prefer the fusion rear end. The roof though, wow! And the interior is Beautiful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005Explorer Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) Most people won't notice that, especially with the window changes (6th window etc). I also think the fact they are the same car underneath will also be hidden very well. I do think regular production versions may share some greenhouse elements and glass pieces (front door window design?) but this is the proper way to platform share and is not a rebadge like the current MKZ. Also sharing certain elements on the outside is fine if it works with the design. What you don't want to do is just change stuff for the sake of change and not because it makes the vehicle more attractive. When you do that you end up with something like the MKT. I do think you will notice more interior similarities after looking at both pictures especially in the door panels, vent design, etc. but I'm glad they spent their budget on the exterior. I still would purchase a well equipped Fusion over this and use the thousands I saved for something else, but it should appeal to those with extra money who want something with more luxury. A few things I noticed missing here: no Lincoln emblem on the decklid or front fenders. Current Lincolns have a total of FOUR logos on the exterior, which is a bit excessive! Also, unlike recent concepts, this is no model nameplate anywhere on the vehicle. Does anyone see "MKZ" anywhere in these pics? I wonder if they're considering renaming the new MKZ... Also the "new" logo is not on the new MKS and MKT. I would LOVE it if the whole MKZ thing went away and this Lincoln was properly renamed Zephyr, but I think Ford is so proud of their Alphabet Soup MK this and that I'm afraid it won't happen. I have seen very few people who like the whole MK thing and as they add models in the future it is just going to get nasty. This would be a good time to start naming them again. I have always said just because Cadillac had to copy the Asian and European luxury brands with alpha-numerical model names didn't mean that Lincoln also had to jump on it. Let Lincoln be Lincoln. Copying everyone else when your last to the table doesn't always work. Edited January 10, 2012 by 2005Explorer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I still would purchase a well equipped Fusion over this and use the thousands I saved for something else Even without knowing the powertrain options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Am I the only one who sees a lot of Lexus ES in the overall shape? Certainly not a bad thing, as that is one of the better selling vehicles in this class. I think the Lincoln looks more elegant than the ES though. I really like this design. There's not one thing that really stands out to me screaming "please change me for production!" I hope the one unveiled in NY is pretty close to this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005Explorer Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Even without knowing the powertrain options? Well the possibility that the Lincoln could get a V6 especially if it is the 300 HP D37 is no doubt a pretty big deal, but for those of us who have to carefully budget every dollar the Fusion is by far the better value. You and others are claiming a Fusion ST is coming, so that is probably the car I would wait for if I was in the market for a midsize sedan again. When my Escape lease is up I'm not sure what I will do... Probably either buy my current lease or go get another Escape even though I'm hardly a fan of the new style. I will also consider the Fusion AWD, but after having an SUV again I would find it hard to go back to a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Real-world pics are up at Autoblog, which do a much better job showing the front end's dimensionality which was lost in the press pics. LINK - Autoblog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I like the "shoulder" that runs the length of the vehicle the best. This vehicle has a distinctive presence. If it was parked next to an Audi, Cadillac, BMW, Mercedes, Lexus, etc. it would stand out. We may quibble with some of the details, but I think Lincoln successfully accomplished what they set out to do, establish a new design language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 When my Escape lease is up I'm not sure what I will do... Probably either buy my current lease or go get another Escape even though I'm hardly a fan of the new style. If you end up in a 2013 Escape, after the countless arguments here, I'm buying you a beer or 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Well the possibility that the Lincoln could get a V6 especially if it is the 300 HP D37 is no doubt a pretty big deal, but for those of us who have to carefully budget every dollar the Fusion is by far the better value. Duh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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