OHV 16V Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Man, they're just rubbing it in that we can't get these... Also, a mystery set of 2013 Fusions wearing full camo. Hmm... Wonder what those are about... http://www.autoweek.com/article/20121205/CARNEWS/121209940 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Werid that the T6 Ranger has no camo, yet the Fusion do...I bet they are just Ti level Hybrids or Engeri models since they don't have different rims on them (which could indicate an ST) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Mule perhaps. Maybe something that starts with 'S' and ends with 'T' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Mule perhaps. Maybe something that starts with 'S' and ends with 'T' Sorry, only Chevy makes that model... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Aaaahhh...I walked into that one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Must be doing testing for new drivetrain... has to be the ST? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Maybe they are trying to fix the 1.6L EB fire issue LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 "Hey - let's put camo paint on some Fusions and start lots of internet rumors." Don't forget they do a lot of testing in the U.S. for vehicles that aren't sold here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Don't forget they do a lot of testing in the U.S. for vehicles that aren't sold here. And often they don't remove camo from older mules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Maybe they are trying to fix the 1.6L EB fire issue LOL So the camo is just in case no one can see the fire? Too soon? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MineralstangGT Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 So the camo is just in case no one can see the fire? Too soon? No, you need to take the car to higher altitude to lower the amount of oxygen available for the fire to start in the first place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I just saw a comoed Fusion on Monday. Not uncommon to see the old prototypes still on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005Explorer Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 The T6 is not coming to the U.S. but it sure is funny that anytime one is spotted the rumor mill starts. It's a nice smaller truck, but it is not necessary. Most people want a full sized pickup in the U.S. so even if they launched it here sales would likely be poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 The T6 is not coming to the U.S. but it sure is funny that anytime one is spotted the rumor mill starts. It's a nice smaller truck, but it is not necessary. Most people want a full sized pickup in the U.S. so even if they launched it here sales would likely be poor. Nah- My bet is the T-6 is a support vehicle for the others and they didn't want to be driving around a truck the size of a 150. Better that they bring a T-6 over than subject the crew to the embarassment of driving a Tacoma, Frontier, colorado etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Nah- My bet is the T-6 is a support vehicle for the others and they didn't want to be driving around a truck the size of a 150. Better that they bring a T-6 over than subject the crew to the embarassment of driving a Tacoma, Frontier, colorado etc. I know you're just stirring the pot a bit, but what is the fuel economy difference between a T6 and a 3.7L F150? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtshinn Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) The T6 is not coming to the U.S. but it sure is funny that anytime one is spotted the rumor mill starts. It's a nice smaller truck, but it is not necessary. Most people want a full sized pickup in the U.S. so even if they launched it here sales would likely be poor. I would buy one. I've had 3 Rangers. What I REALLY wanted was a Ranger Sized Plug In Hybrid. If I had that I'd go down to one vehicle. Now, I have a Honda Ridgeline for my truck, sold my Camry Hybrid, and have a Ford C-Max Energi on order. Edited December 7, 2012 by rtshinn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I know you're just stirring the pot a bit, but what is the fuel economy difference between a T6 and a 3.7L F150? African or European? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 FordMan- Correct on the pot stirring- I know the MPG numbers are close-but the 3.7 in a 150 from everything I've heard is at best, unimpressive-yes decent MPG but a slug. Second point, I don't want the bulk of a 150. I have an 04 Ranger FX4 Super Cab that one of my kids bought new and I bought from him when it no longer became practical for him. I have a Back Rack on it and it is very practical. But trust me. I understand the current business case-only so much money to spread around. I'm only hoping when the day comes that Super Duty gets redone, we have: T-6, plus one cab for 150,250,350, and a new cab for 450,550, 650, 750 AND "850" that will mark Ford's return to class 8. Bottom line 3 cabs, no different then exists today counting T-6 but we cover markets better. Cost wise, T-6 is sunk. Super Duty cost is a given at some point, and the new cab structure that I'm assuming will use big Transit cab components will serve the 450 and up. And I know this is far from this thread, but I say there will be a big future for "Baby 8" trucks. The rails are going to kill long haul trucking once the double stack container issue is solved and the railroad bridge infrastructure is fixed. There will always be a need for a big class 8 to haul coast to coast, but regional distrbution will be where the freight is- pick up the container at the railhead and make the final delivery to the customer or to the distribution center. But I digress. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Did anyone notice that the vehicles were RHD...FoA doing evaluation on Ecosport and maybe sourcing RHD Fusions from USA / Hermosillo via FTA.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtshinn Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Any rumors on a Ford F-100 to replace the Ranger here in the U.S., in the forseeable future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 African or European? The average of the two, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLPRacing Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Did anyone notice that the vehicles were RHD...FoA doing evaluation on Ecosport and maybe sourcing RHD Fusions from USA / Hermosillo via FTA.... I couldn't tell, but that's an interesting observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 FordMan- Correct on the pot stirring- I know the MPG numbers are close-but the 3.7 in a 150 from everything I've heard is at best, unimpressive-yes decent MPG but a slug. Second point, I don't want the bulk of a 150. I have an 04 Ranger FX4 Super Cab that one of my kids bought new and I bought from him when it no longer became practical for him. I have a Back Rack on it and it is very practical. But trust me. I understand the current business case-only so much money to spread around. I'm only hoping when the day comes that Super Duty gets redone, we have: T-6, plus one cab for 150,250,350, and a new cab for 450,550, 650, 750 AND "850" that will mark Ford's return to class 8. Bottom line 3 cabs, no different then exists today counting T-6 but we cover markets better. Cost wise, T-6 is sunk. Super Duty cost is a given at some point, and the new cab structure that I'm assuming will use big Transit cab components will serve the 450 and up. And I know this is far from this thread, but I say there will be a big future for "Baby 8" trucks. The rails are going to kill long haul trucking once the double stack container issue is solved and the railroad bridge infrastructure is fixed. There will always be a need for a big class 8 to haul coast to coast, but regional distrbution will be where the freight is- pick up the container at the railhead and make the final delivery to the customer or to the distribution center. But I digress. I think there will be a smaller pickup from Ford, when they feel the time is right and they have the other, more important, pieces taken care of. As far as the common cab between F1,2,350, I just don't see it happening. With the next redesign of the F150, the largest engine you will see will be the 5.0 (at least, that's what I'm betting). To enable the 6.7L diesel to fit under the hood, you have to have a much larger overall size. It just does not make sense, as far as fuel economy improvements for the F150 go, to have a cab that large, just so you can share the cab with the F250-F350 trucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 The average of the two, please. You didn't get the Monty python reference... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) You didn't get the Monty python reference... Ha ha...no, it flew right over my head! And to think I thought my comeback was smart-ass enough. Edited December 7, 2012 by fordmantpw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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