ds91776 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 With the debut of the NA versions of the Transit and Transit Connect out of the way...Ford still needs a "world-wide" debut in Detroit. The only mjaor option is the 2014 Edge. But some have INSISTED that the next gen Edge will be a 2015 model year vehicle. What are the other options? Mustang, F-150, and Expedition are likely for the 2015 model year and Taurus might be a 2015 as well. So...it has to be the Edge, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Don't see why they need a world-wide debut. If an Edge gets shown, it'll likely only be in concept form. With online media these days, the need for unveils at these shows becomes less and less important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds91776 Posted December 14, 2012 Author Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) The need a reveal. The Detroit show is THE biggest automotive event in the New World and arguable in the entire world. Ford is a Tier One brand and it needs a significant presence. The 2011 show was kinda boring for Ford because they only had the Vertrek concept, I think. Ford needs to have more. Now...there is that rumor of a F-150 teaser concept... Edited December 14, 2012 by ds91776 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) not exactly a new Edge but how about a nextgen/CD4 S-Max CONCEPT? ... might be a good thing to gauge U.S. opinion Edited December 14, 2012 by 2b2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) Or how about a sneak preview of the 2015 F150.. Edited December 14, 2012 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Or how about a sneak preview of the 2015 F150.. That's the plan, apparently, though I don't agree with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 That's the plan, apparently, though I don't agree with it. I don't either, but if it's just a headlight or something, I can live with that. Or maybe it is a concept giving us a "glimpse" of the new truck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I don't either, but if it's just a headlight or something, I can live with that. Or maybe it is a concept giving us a "glimpse" of the new truck? It's a concept truck. Hopefully it's just a showpiece to steal some of GM's thunder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 not exactly a new Edge but how about a nextgen/CD4 S-Max CONCEPT? ... might be a good thing to gauge U.S. opinion Hasn't there been scuttlebutt about the next gen Edge and S-Max merging? Maybe you're on to something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds91776 Posted December 14, 2012 Author Share Posted December 14, 2012 The next gen Edge and S-Max will not merge because they serve two different market segments. Also, Ford stated that the next-gen Edge would be sold in Europe in the S/CUV segment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 That's the plan, apparently, though I don't agree with it. Rather than showing much of the truck, perhaps it would be better to press home the point of reduced weight and the effect that will have on fuel economy,GM be damned, if they are pressing on with a heavier truck and believe making a lighter full sized truck is of no advantage.... suffer the consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) just had a thought/realization: the nextgen Mustang to be shown at NAIAS2014 will be so mind-boggling that all the press the F-150 debut would get then is, "...oh, and Ford also showed a truck." Edited December 15, 2012 by 2b2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 just had a thought/realization: the nextgen Mustang to be shown at NAIAS2014 will be so mind-boggling that all the press the F-150 debut would get then is, "...oh, and Ford also showed a truck." Good point...that is a bit of a dilemma for Ford. The most iconic nameplate along with the most important vehicle both debuting radically new and different models at the same show could be a bit of an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consult1 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 That's the plan, apparently, though I don't agree with it. Not to worry, likely something virtual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Good point...that is a bit of a dilemma for Ford. The most iconic nameplate along with the most important vehicle both debuting radically new and different models at the same show could be a bit of an issue. What issue is that? Getting too much press coverage? Never a bad thing, especially when you are talking two vehicles that couldn't be more different from one another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Other than Transit launch in 2013, Ford could use a light all new vehicle launch year in order to shore up recent quality fiascos like MFT, 1.6EB problems, Powershift problems, Manual Mustang V8 problems, and so on. Take a year and get it all straightened out and behind them before starting a bunch more super important launches in a row like Fusion and Escape almost at same time. The Transit will be more than enough for now, considering how Ford dominates commercial van segment and needs to get this right out of box. The new MKC will be towards end of year and more of a minor launch for a rather low volume brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Manual Mustang V8 problems Is it still 2010? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisH Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Is it still 2010? Thanks for this comment Nick. When I read FordBuyer's comment, I had no idea what he was talking about. I haven't heard about any Mustang issues in a couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 When I read FordBuyer's comment, he has no idea what he is talking about. FTFY 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Old urban legands never die. 'Found On Road Dead' is still used. The ignorant just have to be enlightened. Knowledge is power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 just had a thought/realization: the nextgen Mustang to be shown at NAIAS2014 will be so mind-boggling that all the press the F-150 debut would get then is, "...oh, and Ford also showed a truck." That is why I would surmise that the new Mustang will be shown at LA, the new F150 at NAIAS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 What issue is that? Getting too much press coverage? Never a bad thing, especially when you are talking two vehicles that couldn't be more different from one another. Well, it could be that the press may not be able to cover both extensively, so they skip out on one for the other. I know the Mustang is going to be the hottest topic since it is the most exciting to most press folks, so the F150 may lag a bit in positive coverage. I just know I may as well take a day off work because I won't be getting anything else done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 ...because I won't be getting anything else done! imho you may as well take off starting Crimmas Eve ... ya know, planted spy pix thru long slow online striptease :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 imho you may as well take off starting Crimmas Eve ... ya know, planted spy pix thru long slow online striptease :D Works for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Well, it could be that the press may not be able to cover both extensively, so they skip out on one for the other. I know the Mustang is going to be the hottest topic since it is the most exciting to most press folks, so the F150 may lag a bit in positive coverage. I just know I may as well take a day off work because I won't be getting anything else done! Eh, I think certain publications would naturally gravitate toward one or the other. I doubt someone like Road & Track would do much of a write up on a new F-150 even if there was no new Mustang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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