mettech Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) Here's the thing. We've found that turbocharged engines can be something of a wild card when subjected to the truth-telling of a dyno test. Sometimes, the engine overachieves (looking at you, Volkswagen). Other times we find they're sensitive to heat and deliver inconsistent results. Curious to see how the 2014 Ford Fiesta ST would fare, we headed over to MD Automotive and strapped it down to the shop's Dynojet chassis dyno. Here's what we found: http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/track-tests/2014-ford-fiesta-st-dyno-tested.html Edited October 26, 2013 by mettech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) Stock USA Focus ST 234.90 Wheel HP and 263.38 Wheel Max Torque http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb4BVlrWhFE Edited October 26, 2013 by MKII 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanatWork Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 More and more, it seems like the Fiesta is the ultimate performance bargain in the market right now...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydro Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Great numbers for that little booger. Has there been any performance times ( 0-60 & 1/4 mile) posted yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 TTAC - LINK Of course the biggest difference between the ST and a base Fiesta is under the short hood. Ford’s GTDI 197 hp (as long as you spring for 93 octane fuel), EcoBoost 1.6 I4 delivers 202 ft lbs of torque @ 4,200 rpm. It does zero-60 in 6.9 second with a top speed of 137mph. Ford claims you should be able to see 26mpg city and 35mpg highway “easy”. For some reason, I did not come close to that during my test drive. It’s all electronically assisted by Ford’s Torque Vectoring Control (TVC) system to brake the inside front wheel to aid agility, and 3-mode Electronic Stability Control. The three modes are: ON = intervenes fully to prevent loss of control, WIDE SLIP (or sport) = ESC intervenes later to allowing skidding, and OFF = no intervention. The TVC is always on regardless what you do with the ESC. Peak power is made in “overboost” mode, when the turbo is putting in a maximum of 21 psi. To stretch the engine’s durability, Ford programmed the computer to cut pressure after 20 seconds at wide-open throttle. As hard as I tried I couldn’t reach that 20-second barrier. Surprisingly Ann Arbor does not have any salt flats nearby. Unless you’re fleeing the cops (see below), you’ll probably never feel the turbo cut out, and if you do, just lift for a second and the timer resets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Bzuh? How does the 184hp 'closely align' with Ford's flywheel figures? Figure 15% drivetrain losses, and that 184hp turns into 216hp. That's every so slightly higher than 197hp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 And the Focus is putting out about 294lb-ft at the flywheel. Yikes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanatWork Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Perspective check:in the late 80's, the Mustang GT and the IROC-Z were fighting it out with 225-230 hp, and the Corvette was getting to the 300 hp mark. Nowadays, the former hp figures are what you get in "hot hatches", and the current Mustang/Camaro have more hp in their base V6s than the old 'Vette.Occasionally, this stuff hits me, and I shake my head. A 420 (net!) hp 'Stang was worthy of the cover of "Hot Rod" back then. It's the same power a (US Legal) Lamborghini Countach had. A Shelby putting out 662 ponies would have seemed as speculative as flying cars. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 And the Focus is putting out about 294lb-ft at the flywheel. Yikes. There was a discussion recently regarding the 2.0 EB in a Taurus/PI sedan being a little wheezy until we realize that the CVPI had a 4.6 2V that punted out 239 hp and 282 lb·ft 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Perspective check: A Shelby putting out 662 ponies would have seemed as speculative as flying cars. For sure. There's a video of a Shelby doing 200 mph on some European course, all nice and stable, with no giant wing, even. Imagine 200 mph with a warranty, from your Ford dealer. So, the next Mustang gets built in the EU. Now German gonzo tuners will get a whack at it, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Fiesta ST will be quicker than 6.9 to 60............watch..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBFlex Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Fiesta ST will be quicker than 6.9 to 60............watch..... What range do you expect? I think you're right, as 6.9 seems pretty slow for a car with that power to weight ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97svtgoin05gt Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I love driving my FST. Its great fun and has enough oomph to allow you do pretty much do what you want without sacrificing MPGs. As long as you pick and choose your tip ins, you can get 25mpg all day while having quite a bit of fun. I'm sure the Fiesta is just as much fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Bzuh? How does the 184hp 'closely align' with Ford's flywheel figures? Figure 15% drivetrain losses, and that 184hp turns into 216hp. That's every so slightly higher than 197hp. They are saying the number 184 is close to the number 197. Meaning the car is significantly under rated if the wheel horsepower is almost the same as the stated crank horsepower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 More and more, it seems like the Fiesta is the ultimate performance bargain in the market right now...! Depends on when the "performance" line gets crossed for you. It's a good performer for its segment, but it's still not very exciting compared to what's available on the market as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Depends on when the "performance" line gets crossed for you. It's a good performer for its segment, but it's still not very exciting compared to what's available on the market as a whole. in that price range it has few peers Nick........if any.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 They are saying the number 184 is close to the number 197. Meaning the car is significantly under rated if the wheel horsepower is almost the same as the stated crank horsepower. The vehicle will run in overboost condition for around 20 seconds where it makes more power than the sustained figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevys Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) in that price range it has few peers Nick........if any.... I would argue that the base Mustang is probably one of the biggest bangs for the buck out there period. About 800 more give or take. While not in the same class it would be my pick all day long over the either St's. No turbos, RWD, better styling(subjective) and just more desirable imo. Edited October 30, 2013 by chevys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pictor Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 They are not in the same catagory and cetainly not the same market demographic. Some looking at a base mustang is would not be interested in a hot hatch. The ST package would provide a lot more flash than the base Mustang, no offense to the Mustang, but we are talking base here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 in that price range it has few peers Nick........if any.... Oh, I'm not saying it does. It fairs well...in its class. Just saying that in my opinion, nothing in that price range, even the ST, really offers what many would consider to be real "performance". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Oh, I'm not saying it does. It fairs well...in its class. Just saying that in my opinion, nothing in that price range, even the ST, really offers what many would consider to be real "performance". Your definition of performance isn't shared by everyone. Hot hatches have been big for at least 2 decades. It's not always about huge hp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettech Posted October 30, 2013 Author Share Posted October 30, 2013 Might check and see if the insurance is different for the V-6 'stang w/performance package and Fiesta ST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Your definition of performance isn't shared by everyone. Hot hatches have been big for at least 2 decades. It's not always about huge hp. I did say many, not all. And most "hot hatches" that are worth a hoot aren't stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project-Fairmont Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Oh, I'm not saying it does. It fairs well...in its class. Just saying that in my opinion, nothing in that price range, even the ST, really offers what many would consider to be real "performance". With all do respect to Mustangs, lord knows I have had more than a few and currently AutoX an '82 GT, the Fiesta is a more refined vehicle. It rides better, steers better and has better fit and finish inside. That being said the GT500 is extremely desirable IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97svtgoin05gt Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Oh, I'm not saying it does. It fairs well...in its class. Just saying that in my opinion, nothing in that price range, even the ST, really offers what many would consider to be real "performance". Nick all I'll say here is as an experienced Mustang owner (have had 7 or 8 through the years) while this car doesn't sport 400+hp which is needed these days for SOME to consider a car "performance", this car is definitely one of the most well sorted, stable, nimble and yes fairly fast cars out there today. Its also quiet on the road, offers all of the best infotainment features and all for under $30k. Right now I fail to be able to think of anything that rivals it in the price range. And no, I'm not going to accept a prior posters comparison of a Focus ST vs a base Mustang. Different platform, rear drive which makes it unmanageable as a daily in bad weather and the Focus is screwed together better in my opinion. There's none of the harshness of the Mustang suspension in the Focus. We're really talking the best available small car in Fords arsenal against their base level "performance" car and I'd bet that from just about any angle the ST will out perform the base Mustang with the exception maybe of straight line top speed. Focus ST will BTW do 155 so I'm not so sure that's even a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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