jpd80 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) Really, the car has a passing resemblance to the bently and the A8 but that is exactly what Lincoln wants, to remind luxury buyers of those cars when considering a Continental.... How does this play for the rest of the Lincoln range, does anothe design language now filter through and we see a MKZ redone as more AudiA6?, does that leave room for a LWB Focus A4 impersonation below? And what of Land rover when they lay eyes on the new Alloy body Navigator? I think Ford is on the right track with Lincoln and the more "Hey, WTF are you doing..." that comes back the better. because Lincoln is become everything its luxury competitors never envisioned, a real threat... So how do you capture that Lincoln magic that buyers most certainly want but the essence that eluded Ford for so long?Latch onto something like Continental and think about every other product that Lincoln wants to offer,Ford needs to keep vetting and rejecting lincoln proposals until they are the better vehicles the company wants to see,no good spending money on differentiation that doesn't go far enough or that doesn't really attract buyers, it's just a waste. Edited April 1, 2015 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Wow, I didn't realize how much it looked like the Bentley until you posted those two pics. And yet it looks like total shit. They may look similar, but the Bentley is BORING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I cannot wait to see MKT morph into Aviator with styling ques from Continental..... Bentley can go suck it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I cannot wait to see MKT morph into Aviator with styling ques from Continental..... That would be a massive turnaround in fortune and lay to rest the last vestige of Peter Horbury's styling. Not meaning to make that Continental styling look derivative but a lot of the elements should transfer. much better to othe vehicles. Maybe this has been the big hold up with going forward - the missing essence? Bentley can go suck it. He may as well have said,"How dare you copy our $200K car, the one with the with the name we lease from you..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBirdStangSkyliner Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 That would be a massive turnaround in fortune and lay to rest the last vestige of Peter Horbury's styling. Not meaning to make that Continental styling look derivative but a lot of the elements should transfer. much better to othe vehicles. Maybe this has been the big hold up with going forward - the missing essence? .." It is sad that the best, and only good, Horbury era design was the MKR which was never built. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Thinking this is on CD4; and the base will be FWD, with AWD and Performance AWD being options. I can't get over how much this car is the child of the 70s Lincolns though. I just can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 What if the "MK" Lincolns retain the split wing grille, while named/higher series Lincolns (Navigator, Continental, perhaps Aviator) get this look? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Thinking this is on CD4; and the base will be FWD, with AWD and Performance AWD being options. I can't get over how much this car is the child of the 70s Lincolns though. I just can't. I'm thinking the blue interior has a lot to do with that. I think they dug up some old velour and wool carpet for sh:+s and giggles. The styling IP and center console in metal is pretty damn sharp! I sincerely hope that makes production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I actually like the blue interior! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Wow, I didn't realize how much it looked like the Bentley until you posted those two pics. Someone should ask Donckerwolke how he managed to saddle the RWD Flying Spur with FWD proportions, if he thinks that the Conti is a copy of the Bentley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I actually like the blue interior! I should have clarified that I like the colour ( my favorite...no wait! ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Thinking this is on CD4; and the base will be FWD, with AWD and Performance AWD being options. I can't get over how much this car is the child of the 70s Lincolns though. I just can't. Remembering this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Someone should ask Donckerwolke how he managed to saddle the RWD Flying Spur with FWD proportions, if he thinks that the Conti is a copy of the Bentley. Note the position of the front differential...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossman351 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Because the Bentleys are based on the A8 platform which is front wheel drive based with all wheel drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 So, Bentley makes a $200k car based on the platform of a vehicle that costs, on average, less than half as much? I don't think there's a single Lincoln product about which that can be said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 But it's totally ok when European brands do it, Richard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 But it's totally ok when European non-Ford brands do it, Richard. FTFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Because the Bentleys are based on the A8 platform which is front wheel drive based with all wheel drive. It's really the Phaeton (steel) version of the platform, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Then it's a Bentley based on a VW that sells for less than half the price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) It's really the Phaeton (steel) version of the platform, isn't it? Correct. Then it's a Bentley based on a VW that sells for less than half the price? Also correct. Edited April 1, 2015 by papilgee4evaeva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Well, then it looks like Ford's one-upped Bentley, seeings how the Continental's based on a Ford that sells for *more* than half the price. No wonder their designer got his undies in a bunch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StangBang Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Really because I don't recall a single Bentley looking like a Ford. There is undeniable similarities to the Flying Spur and XJ. However, it is sufficiently different. But maybe Bentley needs to acknowledge how they and others were evolutionally influenced by the Telnack-era Fords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Hatter Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Really because I don't recall a single Bentley looking like a Ford. No, I never said they copied Ford. I said they and others were evolutionally influenced by the soft styling. I say that because that was a new paradigm in design that set the template for the future. It was as extraordinary as the '61 Continental in dragging design out of the previous decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) Every car today was influenced by the Taurus. You could no more deny the influence of that car on vehicle design than you could argue that Elvis Presley had no influence on rock music. But, at the same time, I don't think any Bentley has looked as much like a Ford as this Lincoln looks like a Bentley. Edited April 2, 2015 by RichardJensen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) It reminds me of that scene in a few good men, SAM I strenuously object? Is that how it works? Objection. Overruled. No, no, no, no, I strenuously object. Oh, well if you strenuously object, let me take a moment to reconsider. JO I got it on the record. SAM You also got it in the jury's head that we're afraid of the doctor. You object once so they can hear you say he's not a criminologist. You keep after it and it looks like this great cross we did was just a bunch of fancy lawyer tricks. It's the difference between paper law and trial -- KAFFEE Sam -- SAM Christ, you even had the Judge saying Stone was an expert! KAFFEE Sam, she made a mistake. Let's not relive it. Edited April 2, 2015 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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