fuzzymoomoo Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 40 minutes ago, pictor said: I would imagine that they won’t offer two wheel drive bronco Why wouldn't they? Every other BOF truck is offered in 2x4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Why wouldn't they? Every other BOF truck is offered in 2x4 Truck, yes. But we're talking Bronco here. I don't think the Bronco has EVER been offered in 4x2, has it (not counting the Bronco II)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 All we need us a bronc "U13".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, fordmantpw said: Truck, yes. But we're talking Bronco here. I don't think the Bronco has EVER been offered in 4x2, has it (not counting the Bronco II)? The closest we ever got was the Lightning Bronco concept, and no further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, fordmantpw said: Truck, yes. But we're talking Bronco here. I don't think the Bronco has EVER been offered in 4x2, has it (not counting the Bronco II)? I actually didn't know that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 That's why the base 2.3 EB will probably start about $35K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) Wrangler starts at 28k for the 2 door and almost 32k for the 4 door in Sport trim. These Jeeps look really basic on the exterior, lots of black plastic. I’m hoping ford doesn’t go that route on the exterior of the base bronco since its one of their “Icon” vehicles. If that’s the case then I could see the 2 door right around 30k and the 4 door around 34k. Those prices seem reasonable to me, but knowing ford lately, it will probably be higher than that. Edited January 12, 2020 by T-dubz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 46 minutes ago, T-dubz said: Wrangler starts at 28k for the 2 door and almost 32k for the 4 door in Sport trim. These Jeeps look really basic on the exterior, lots of black plastic. I’m hoping ford doesn’t go that route on the exterior of the base bronco since its one of their “Icon” vehicles. If that’s the case then I could see the 2 door right around 30k and the 4 door around 34k. Those prices seem reasonable to me, but knowing ford lately, it will probably be higher than that. Oh balls, I forgot about the 2 and 4 door difference in my price guess earlier It kinda still stands though. Instead of 2x4 and 4x4, it could apply to 2dr and 4dr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02MustangGT Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 My prediction: Base 2 door (Manual): $30,995 Base 4 door (Manual): $33,995 Over $55,000 for loaded 4 door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, 02MustangGT said: My prediction: Base 2 door (Manual): $30,995 Base 4 door (Manual): $33,995 Over $55,000 for loaded 4 door. ha, I forgot about manual. This better be one of those vehicles where the automatic is standard and the manual is extra lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, T-dubz said: ha, I forgot about manual. This better be one of those vehicles where the automatic is standard and the manual is extra lol Manual is standard on Mustang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, T-dubz said: ha, I forgot about manual. This better be one of those vehicles where the automatic is standard and the manual is extra lol Heck, MAP is going to have to hire some end-of-the-line drivers that know what that 3rd pedal is for,,,,,, Hahaha, HRG 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 40 minutes ago, HotRunrGuy said: Heck, MAP is going to have to hire some end-of-the-line drivers that know what that 3rd pedal is for,,,,,, Hahaha, HRG Uh, what? Did you forget about the Focus ST already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Uh, what? Did you forget about the Focus ST already? Well, it's been a while since the last one of those rolled off the line, right? May 2018? Edited January 12, 2020 by HotRunrGuy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just now, HotRunrGuy said: Well, it's been a while since the last one of those rolled off the line, right? Well I don't think 2 years is long enough to forget how to drive a stick, besides, EOL drivers are all very high seniority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 27 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Well I don't think 2 years is long enough to forget how to drive a stick, besides, EOL drivers are all very high seniority. Sounds good. I probably haven't driven a manual in 30 years, yet I still find myself pushing down on an imaginary clutch pedal from time to time,,,, HRG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 7 Speed manual with really low 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) Toyota 4Runner starts at $36k for the poverty spec SR5. Most of them are sold in the mid $40s. Jeep Wrangler 4 door starts at $32k for the poverty spec Sport. Most of them are sold in the mid $40s. Jeep Wrangler 2 door starts at $28k for the poverty spec Sport. So few are sold, it doesn't really matter. My guess is Bronco 4 door will start at $35k. I have no guess on the 2 door... it's a super niche market and Ford may just decide to start at the same price as the 4 door. There is no reason to make it cheaper in my opinion. People that want 2 doors will pay a premium to get it. Most people will go for the 4 doors so it has to be price competitive with 4Runner at the very least. Another set of data points to consider... I highly doubt Bronco will be cheaper than Edge so look at the MSRP for Edge and add a premium for comparatively equipped Bronco. Edge SE AWD $33k Edge SEL AWD $36k Edge Titanium AWD $40k Edge ST AWD $43k Edited January 12, 2020 by bzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolDude919 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Even reading some of the articles, it sounds like QA is drastically better out of Chicago for the explorer, but still not where it should be. I am sure they hoped for better explorer numbers. Does anyone recall this being a thing for the expedition out in Kentucky for its 18 refresh, or just things went extra bad in Chicago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, CoolDude919 said: Even reading some of the articles, it sounds like QA is drastically better out of Chicago for the explorer, but still not where it should be. I am sure they hoped for better explorer numbers. Does anyone recall this being a thing for the expedition out in Kentucky for its 18 refresh, or just things went extra bad in Chicago? Ford changed so much with the new Explorer that it was almost inevitable that troubles would happen in the first twelve months. Perhaps it's a good idea to staying away from first year's production until Ford gets on top of things and meets expected quality. What compounded Explorer's problems was Ford trying to increase production too quickly, where as Expedition was more of steady production roll out due to inherent constraints at Kentucky Truck plant. Expedition is basically an extension of the F150 equipment and systems already in use also helped have a less troubled roll out. Edited January 13, 2020 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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