2024 Nautilus -- Feedback for Ford/Lincoln Management

[brucelinc 505]

40 minutes ago, akirby said:

That looks too much like a BMW to me.

That is because it is a BMW.

[tbone 1,238]

4 hours ago, brucelinc said:

I would have preferred the Continental go a bit more toward the 4 door "coupe" profile....like this BMW 8 series.

Totally agree.  I think it would have sold better.  Additionally, I don’t think Lincoln has done the best job of translating concepts to production either, which isn’t helpful.   

[akirby 18,114]

1 hour ago, brucelinc said:

That is because it is a BMW.

Guess I need to learn how to read.  Thought it was another photoshop.

[matt6 22]

Edit: I misread the thread. Disregard. Thought my Photoshop was mistaken for a BMW. Apologies.

But yeah I would have liked a more 4 door coupe style sedan too in addition to the more traditional style Continental

Edited July 23 by matt6

[DeluxeStang 613]

On 7/19/2023 at 12:55 PM, Andrew L said:

Here's my attempt at photoshopping the 13 MKS grill into the 13 MKZ for what it's worth.  Apparently this is what it was going to look like before Wolff changed it.  Personally I think the horizontal bars was the right move.

I've just never loved the MKZ. The back end is razor sharp, and the front end is this rounded blob. Always looked like two cars smashed together to me. 

[escapeman 30]

Everyone has gotten off topic here.  This link is about the 24 Nautilus. Not about photoshop of past Lincoln sedans. 

[akirby 18,114]

3 hours ago, escapeman said:

Everyone has gotten off topic here.  This link is about the 24 Nautilus. Not about photoshop of past Lincoln sedans. 

It’s all related to Lincoln design language.

[DeluxeStang 613]

On 7/15/2023 at 7:51 AM, brucelinc said:

I had a Continental from 2017 until late 2021.   While the styling was not offensive, I thought it was much too bland.     While the failure of the Continental could easily be blamed on consumer's move to utility vehicles, it also was not special enough in any way to attract many new  buyers.  

Agreed, the last continental looked a bit like a stretched 2010 Camry to me it terms of it's basic profile, and things like the headlights. If Lincoln were to ever bring back a sedan as an EV, they need to go super bold like these l100 sketches. 

Edited July 23 by DeluxeStang

[Andrew L 75]

On 7/22/2023 at 11:59 PM, DeluxeStang said:

I've just never loved the MKZ. The back end is razor sharp, and the front end is this rounded blob. Always looked like two cars smashed together to me. 

 

I owned a 13 and now have a 17.  I really like the 17-20 front end a lot better than the split wing grill.  The 13-16 is fine IMO but it reminds me a bit too much of cars from the 40s with that bath tub look.  I think the more formal front end makes the overall package look better.  I am probably in the minority on that since I know a lot of folks like the 13-16 better but just my 2 cents.

[mustang84isu 109]

42 minutes ago, Andrew L said:

 

I owned a 13 and now have a 17.  I really like the 17-20 front end a lot better than the split wing grill.  The 13-16 is fine IMO but it reminds me a bit too much of cars from the 40s with that bath tub look.  I think the more formal front end makes the overall package look better.  I am probably in the minority on that since I know a lot of folks like the 13-16 better but just my 2 cents.

 

I also prefer the 17-20 MKZ front end.  I was disappointed they did nothing to refresh the rear, because I think it could have looked great if they had made the rear design language better match the front - such as take some cues from the Continental's rear.  I don't know if they were locked in with hardpoints or just didn't have enough budget, but I agree with the comment that it looks like the front and rear for both MKZ generations were designed by different people.

[mustang84isu 109]

One more "what if"....if the 2017 MKZ refresh had adopted more of a Continental rear end.

 

 

[jacytbe 0]

On 6/22/2023 at 10:57 AM, silvrsvt said:

 

My experience with a Dodge Caliber rental refutes that...not to mention all the issues with various Nissan, Honda and whoever elses CVTs I see crop up on social media all the time. 

I actually owned a Caliber...  A 2007 RT and it was a credit building car for me. It was not a great car but for 25K I couldn't complain.  The CVT was made by Jatco and was the same you would find in the Nissans. The caliber was a world car so everything in it was shared by other auto manufacturers. 

[MKX1960 139]

On 7/14/2023 at 7:06 AM, tbone said:

The MKT never looked good in any way, shape, or form IMO.  

I had a 2012 and liked the look of that year. It had sort of a sinister look. After that, they pretty much ruined it.

[RedHoncho01 97]

Here is my review of the 2024 Nautilus after seeing it at my dealership.  We could sit in it but not start it or drive it.