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Cheaper than remodeling Flat Rock to build utilities. But that is also an option.
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The models they killed were the most expendable, meaning they were either losing money or not making much to begin with. This was due to decades of platform mismanagement (e.g. not moving Edge and Nautilus to c2 hybrids back in 2019) and neglect. But that also gives them a clean sheet to build new platforms that are profitable at lower prices. Doesn't mean they'll sell a cheap Corolla competitor because that's just a toaster. But definitely more affordable vehicles. But I doubt you would like whatever Ford comes up with so why don't you stop complaining and just go buy a Toyota?
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They could replace it with mustang suv, sedan and coupe and close Flat Rock.
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It makes sense to me to adopt the giga approach with C2 if they can (C3, if you will?) With CE1 essentially being 3 blocks - front cell with suspension, etc., middle battery pack, and rear cell with rear suspension, I wonder if the front and rear cells can be reused for ICE? with the middle section being replaced to allow for drive shaft etc. Or I guess the front may have to be its own design too for motor mounting points, etc....... So I guess there might be no direct carry over aside from the process itself.
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By DeluxeStang · Posted
Just to streamline costs, I wonder how realistic it would be to have just 3-4 platforms for Ford moving forward that were all super capable, flexible, and versatile. CE1 for Ford's "normal" cars. They could still be fun passion products, but things like the maverick, bronco sport, escape, future hatchbacks and sedans, and so on, offered in both pure EV and EREV. These would be the super affordable, low cost of ownership, appeals to people who just want a good commuter car crowd. Then a BoF platform that unpins everything ranger sized all the way up to super duty. The rugged, workhorse platform for trucks, the bronco, commerical vans and other vehicles etc. Finally the performance platform, a unibody, RWD with AWD capability underpinning the mustang coupe, sedan, gas powered mach-e, and explorer. -
I think the van at Ohio plant will be a full sized Transit EREV, much like what Ford plans to do with Lightning at REVC, smaller battery pack but keep the electric drive and add a range extender ICE… Seems like that solution is way of keeping existing good BEV parts and adding a gas engine generator for less cost than the really big battery. Thinking Cuautitlan could become evolved C2 plant making EREVs with “giga castings” …..could we see EREV Mach E as simplest Segway?
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Mustang ICE CUV? Theoretically this product doesn't have a home right now, as it likely wouldn't fit at Flat Rock. I suppose if it's CD6-derived, Chicago, but who knows if there's room there, or if Ford wants to go that route. But I also question projected volume on that product, so would it warrant having its own factory? I doubt they're projecting Edge-level volume for something more performance oriented......and even if a Lincoln counterpart came with it, that's still not much volume for a whole plant. Something else EV would make most sense since it's set up for that, but with Ford's EV plans shifting to CE1, and Mach E reportedly getting an ICE replacement, the plant would likely be completely ripped up regardless of what you put there, as both paths would be new production styles for the plant. So I guess the question is, does it stick with EV, or does it revert to ICE product production? ICE production could give Ford another C2 plant after it dropped many of the C2 products lol. Theoretically, converting it to C2 would give them room to produce the Maverick crossover and van (or wait, the van is going to Ohio isn't it?), and maybe a Lincoln counterpart Corsair replacement without having to affect Maverick/Bronco Sport production.......I'm still rather skeptical of Bronco Sport being imported from Valencia....could also throw NA Nautilus production in there if they wanted...
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