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By DeluxeStang · Posted
I had a go, I know one of them looks a little Lexus-ish with the side sheet metal, but it gives you a rough idea. I prefer the front end of the two door version, and the side of the four door. I think something where they take the rectangular grille of the bronco, and blend that with the horizontal light bar Lincoln was would look unique and classy. -
The market didn’t change - Ford just abandoned it.
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By twintornados · Posted
I would not count on Chinese market production facilities since they use several versions of different Ford chassis' in different classes with different motors. CD6 is an orphaned chassis, sadly. Ford designed it, and built it out, then the market changed and Ford just abandoned it.... -
hate to say this...but the speakers I took out were as cheesy as you could get.....
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T6.2 product cycle was always planned to continue until about 2032, so a major refresh around 2029 would seem to be the final update…
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Doesn't make any sense to move Explorer to T6 when it has 2 dedicated plant in US and China on CD6. The midsize SUV/CUV market is so big there is no need for either/or kind of binary decision: Ford needs multiple entries in this size just to cover all the basis. The Explorer/Bronco duality shows there is plenty of demand for both kinds of approach to this size segment. Ford probably is leaving money on the market for not having 2 or 3 more models in this size like Toyota. Toyota vs. Ford Highlander vs. ??? (should be Edge) Grand Highlander vs. Explorer Crown Signia vs. ??? (there was talk of a wagon-like Outback competitor before but never happened) 4Runner vs. ??? (should be Everest) Prado ("Land Cruiser") vs. Bronco (not directly but same heritage name offroader idea different execution) RX vs. Nautilus TX vs. Aviator GX vs. ??? (should be Lincoln T6)
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By twintornados · Posted
Gen 4 Explorer was BoF and rode and drove just fine....Dodge Durango, Lexus LX, Toyota Land Cruiser and 4Runner, a few choices of BoF that are refined to today's riding standard. Unibody design certainly gives a more sedan like ride, but modern suspension geometries make it a moot point. From a pure weight saving mode, unibody and giga-cast are the way to go....again, it was just "a crazy thought". -
I don't hate that, either, but it'd be lost in a Lincoln showroom amidst al the others CUVs/SUVs. I think that a real "Rover fighter" would need to have a more muscuar, truckike appearance to differentiate itself from its float-boat cousins.
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Everest price range $45K to $80K is fine. About in line with 4Runner and Bronco. Although worth pointing out Ranger Raptor is only $57K... a bargain really. This may explain why Ford is interested in a Bronco pickup - the name change could help it get higher MSRP. Lincoln price range should be $65K to $100K. Navigator starts at $92K so the top version of Lincoln T6 should eclipse the cheapest Navigator. Some competitor MSRP range for comparison: Lexus GX $67K to $85K Land Rover Defender 110: $64K to $150K (the Octa MSRP is way up there but the main range tops out around $115K Rivian R1S $79K to $128K Mercedes G-Wagen $148K to infinity... The G-Wagen MSRP is clearly the outlier but the upcoming "baby G" will be in the same price range as the other. "baby G" is probably a misnomer since it is supposedly not that different in size, just cheaper - like Ranger Rover vs. Defender.
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I'm ... not hating this. I asked Gemini to turn the Everest into a Lincoln. Ascender is a Mitsubishi name. Ford Authority brought up calling it the Navigator Sport. I suspect that would lead to some confusion over naming, which is why the MK-whatever names went away. I know I fight the whole "Bronco Sport vs Bronco" issue on the regular here. Adventurer? Wellerman? A couple ship names. Sentinel? Lincoln concept car. Leland? For founder Henry Leland.
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