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By Sherminator98 · Posted
What about the Mondeo/Mondeo sport and the Nautilus? Ford is going to need a 76 in wide CD class product for larger vehicles like that. -
By Sherminator98 · Posted
Well here lies the rub- The Edge was 188.8 long and 76 wide The Escape is 181 long and 74 inches wide The Bronco Sport is 175 long and 74 inches wide. The Nautilus is 193 long and 76 inches wide Not sure what a longer C CUV would bring to the market-they need a slightly wider product to meet the mid sized market. Its far easier to make a longer product then it is to make a wider one, which normally involves a completely new platform. The only upside to using the Maverick is that it most likely hits cost points better (manufacturing) and is already integrated with an hybrid setup. I'm sure marketing will help out with whatever else they are planning on doing. -
What, “Mid sized” isn’t specific enough? Its not like Ford has ever deliberately been opaque/misleading about what that term means.
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Edge has been a sales flop in China and I think Chang'an Ford for domestic China sales is on borrowed time. Ford will utilized the capacity for export from China but it won't need an Edge to do that. All the new products that Ford is launching in China domestic sales are coming from Jiangling Ford. There is no clarity yet on how Territory and Equator will be part of the future product strategy. But make no mistake... they are already global products, more so than Edge which is strictly China only vehicle.
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They just developed the Chinese Edge specifically for that market, why would it "likely" be going away? I also don't think we've seen any indication that the Territory/Equator are going to C2 (even if putting them all on a global platform makes sense).
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We've known this for a while. Size wise, I think it's going to straddle Escape and Edge sizes, allowing the next-gen BS to grow a bit.
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There is a lot of fog surrounding the next gen C2 product strategy. Current Bronco Sport is for all intent and purpose the Maverick CUV... they share the same platform, powertrain packages, and assembly plant. So it makes sense that they would be replaced together again. And I think it is really crucial that Ford makes them global products so markets like Australia for example can be baked in the business plan from the start. The other part of the C2 future is in China. Edge is likely going away so that leaves Territory and Equator. It doesn't make any sense to leave Territory and Equator out on an island by themselves so they will most likely merge into the C2 program, albeit cost optimized for China and emerging markets. The open question is just how closely related they will be to Maverick and Bronco Sport. These are the products that we know will survive beyond the current gen and their known platforms: Model name in " " are guesses CUVs B-segment short "Fiesta" Renault-EV platform B-segment long Puma BX C-segment short Bronco Sport C2 C-segment short "Focus" Renault-EV platform C-segment long Territory (likely) C2 aka "Maverick CUV" C-segment long Escape UEV D-segment short Mach E ??? platform undefined but most likely UEV D-segment long Edge/Equator C2 Non-CUV CD pickup Maverick C2 CD pickup Maverick UEV CD sedan "Fusion" UEV B-segment van Transit Courier BX C-segment van Transit Connect C2 aka "Maverick van" You can see the strategy emerging... ICE will be based on BX or C2 (obvious) and the EV will either be based on the Renault platform or UEV.
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CX code usually means it is developed by Ford's car engineering division, which was largely based in Germany. This engineering team has been decimated by Farley's deliberate cuts as a means to end product engineering and assembly in Europe. Any future CX projects will likely originates from Jiangling Ford (like Territory, which is CX743MCA). U code usually means it is developed by Ford's truck engineering division, which is largely based in Detroit. What we can surmise from this is that there is a Maverick adjacent CUV in the works. What we cannot determine is the size or price target, yet.
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By Motorpsychology · Posted
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