See that is the problem in a nutshell-you feel like Lincoln is a cheap Chinese luxury knock off (well it is built in China) but if the market will buy it still at those prices, why wouldn't Ford Motor Company charge that?

I do realize that, and I have always viewed it for what it is - a mid-level competitor. A GLE450 with the $12k Manufaktur upgrade can be optioned for as low as $85k. Lincoln charging close to that on a lower-tier product when it's still an anemic, obscure brand seems wild to me. 

The big shots at Ford need to do more than craft new iconic names if they want to keep the mustang feeling fresh, because "fresh" sure ain't the feeling that any S650 Mustang provides.

Agreed

I saw a mustang facebook page posted pictures of both and all the comments were about the gt500 nose looking way better than the dark horse S/C.  Nobody mentioned the shelby name.

I can't find any chrome metal or colored sensor retainers for the chrome and black bumper with sensor holes on the 2025 F350 super duty. I can only find black retainers , even on the Ford parts website. Had a small fender bender and was hoping to find that specific piece to go with the original bumper. 

You’re looking at this with American eyes, the export market for Mustang was always smaller but very lucrative because Ford charged premium prices well over domestic levels, that Right Hand Drive version that’s compliant to European Design Rules comes with a decent amount of helmet factor for international buyers. Of late, Ford is becoming lazy on model changeovers and seems to be losing interest in the RHD global sales, Im just saying this because it’s such a shame, Ford has these high value customers eating out of its hand……

I also remembering comments regarding the licence for the Bullitt name being ridiculously high. I guess Ford still has respect for those iconic names but calls enough when the name owners try to cash in

Meh more bitching from people who complain about pricing vs what is actual reality.   If the cost of a car was such an issue, we wouldn't have an average new car price north of $50K because people wouldn't buy them. The bigger issue is the way people are actually using their money on things. They are far too focused on short term or just monthly payments-not sure why you would want a $1000-800 a month car payment-I remember about 10-15 years ago you could get a nice Luxury car for the same monthly payment.    Younger people view older people through rose colored glasses-they see their parents as not having it rough because they see them when they are in the prime of their money making years and think its unfair that they have to struggle, when the vast majority of people "struggled" when they where younger.    Just as an example, buying a house at $26K sounds great, but not when your lucky to make $4-5 bucks an hour.     It boils down to priorities in people's lives. 

not sure if it is 100% accurate but according to this article the refresh Nautilus will debut at the end of the year, at least in China:   "According to the plan, the Voyager will be upgraded by the end of the year. At that time, all Lincoln's main models will be equipped with AI intelligent cabin and a new front face design."   https://k.sina.cn/article_3089293505_b822e0c102701k4n4.html