Something with the 10R "hybrid" transmission? 😛  

Think the vast majority of makers aren't selling cars to "fleet" markets aren't discounting them to the point that they aren't making money on them.    Manufactures pretty much stopped over producing back before 2010, if not earlier.    That is also bore out by how expensive the used car market is and how low the supply is vs what it was say 30 years ago. 

Exactly.  Sure there may be some smaller fleets passenger cars and light trucks that may wish to trade in while their vehicles still have good resale and they want new vehicles to enhance their image.  I agree that Ford gives the 650 and 750 very little marketing attention (even in the trade publications) but to include it in the CPO ads is a head-scatcher!    

Ford Gets Third Place, Narrowly Holds Off Hyundai In Q3 2026 Sales   According to CNBC, Ford narrowly held on to third place in terms of U.S. sales, which declined 6.6 percent during the third quarter to 507,395 units. That was just barely enough to edge out Hyundai/Kia in Q3, as that automaker posted a 5.4 percent increase to 506,200 units. Ford CEO Jim Farley recently revealed that F-Series supplier issues would likely hurt the automaker's Q3 sales, and that seems to be the case here.

Ford Bronco Filson Will Not Have Optional Badlands Feature   Filson Bronco won't have the swaybar disconnect.     In other Bronco news...   2027 Ford Bronco RTR Lineup MSRP Officially Revealed   The 2027 Ford Bronco RTR starts out at "just over $50,000," according to The Blue Oval, minus destination fees. For those looking at a fully-spec'd example with all the options boxes ticked, that'll set them back "just under $60,000," a price that also doesn't include destination. Interestingly, Ford didn't give us exact pricing here, but we imagine that will arrive in due time - along with a specific launch date     Blue Oval Says 2027 Ford Bronco Getting New Engine   Ford has revealed that the 2027 Bronco will indeed be treated to "a new engine," though it stopped short of providing us with any additional details regarding what, exactly, that powerplant might be. To date, we know that the RTR will offer a unique calibration, while the Filson is getting a likely detuned version of the Raptor's twin turbocharged 3.0L V6 EcoBoost, but those haven't been referred to as "new engines" so far.

Government fleet sales are still profitable sales.  Maybe lower profit, but still profit.  It does help spread fixed costs, but I'm pretty sure Ford got out of the business of selling vehicles at a loss.

Really?  I hope not, unless you have abandoned your view on "profitability" or are you now looking at any sale as a means of spreading your fixed costs which I think helps keep the "ship afloat"😎

I would have to think that F-650 owners are the LAST thing in Ford Pro's mind. My comment about including 650/750 in their CPO  push is a bit of a joke... Surprised they even thought of including them.  In terms of Ford Pro's target as I see it is the class 1-3 market, medium duty?...They could care less. I would agree with your point on "using up" the higher classes, but at the other end, you have a large population of small businesses that could find a downturn in business that no longer supports their payments on vehicles...CPO as I see it gives them an opportunity to "trade down".

I think buyers are reacting to the fuel prices, but they are embracing hybrids more than BEVs.   I rented a Hyundai Elantra hybrid a few days ago and didn’t like it but the MPGs were in the 50-60 range for our 300 mile trip. If you can get that kind of fuel economy with a hybrid why bother with the inconvenience of a BEV?

Yeah, that's what I was referring to, sales over the course of the year.