7Mary3 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 https://www.freightwaves.com/news/daimler-halts-ice-truck-sales-in-oregon-citing-dispute-on-clean-truck-credits 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick73 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 16 hours ago, 7Mary3 said: https://www.freightwaves.com/news/daimler-halts-ice-truck-sales-in-oregon-citing-dispute-on-clean-truck-credits Look forward to see where this standoff ends. Article makes it seem as if Daimler is holding firm based on principle. I’ve always wondered what would happen if all manufacturers refused to sell vehicles in California and other states that follow them. I expect they would eventually have to back down. Doubt manufacturers would stick together anyway so unlikely to escalate to that level. Perhaps had manufacturers pushed back harder against California, maybe other states would have not joined them? If Daimler and others were going to resist, I suppose timing now is about as good as it will likely get. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 23 minutes ago, Rick73 said: Look forward to see where this standoff ends. Article makes it seem as if Daimler is holding firm based on principle. I’ve always wondered what would happen if all manufacturers refused to sell vehicles in California and other states that follow them. I expect they would eventually have to back down. Doubt manufacturers would stick together anyway so unlikely to escalate to that level. Perhaps had manufacturers pushed back harder against California, maybe other states would have not joined them? If Daimler and others were going to resist, I suppose timing now is about as good as it will likely get. Well one thing for sure, IMO don't count on Farley to take a stand. Seems to me he waved the white flag when he went along with all of the CARB BS as the the easiest way to insure a clear path forward. In other words, much easier to plan your future as dictated by government. Another thing, as far as the diesel ban in these "left coast" states, Ford should be well positioned to aggressively market 7.3/6.8 powered trucks-starting by adding air brakes to 650/750. Instead they sit on their hands.🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 1/11/2025 at 12:02 PM, Bob Rosadini said: Well one thing for sure, IMO don't count on Farley to take a stand. Seems to me he waved the white flag when he went along with all of the CARB BS as the the easiest way to insure a clear path forward. In other words, much easier to plan your future as dictated by government. Another thing, as far as the diesel ban in these "left coast" states, Ford should be well positioned to aggressively market 7.3/6.8 powered trucks-starting by adding air brakes to 650/750. Instead they sit on their hands.🤔 CARB is used by 19 other states IIRC and 8 of 10 of them are the top selling auto markets...so do the math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 1/11/2025 at 11:02 AM, Bob Rosadini said: ...aggressively market 7.3/6.8 powered trucks-starting by adding air brakes to 650/750. Instead they sit on their hands.🤔 Man, that's a hill you're willing to die on, isn't it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, fordmantpw said: Man, that's a hill you're willing to die on, isn't it! Hah..I guess so. Seems simple doesn't it? What should be a relatively easy addition to the spec list is ignored and that addition would open up another market. I will spare you all the reasons why it makes sense..you have heard it before....so just humor me. Standing on that "hill" was what I was known for in my 44 yr career. Did I get a bloody nose every now and then?...yep!😎 But better than folding your tent when you know you are making sense. PS At least I'm not saying Ford should be back in class 8! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 hours ago, Sherminator98 said: CARB is used by 19 other states IIRC and 8 of 10 of them are the top selling auto markets...so do the math. No argument..like I said, "much easier to plan your future". But I'm not talking about "auto markets", I'm talking about a specific commercial market. And by the way, why did you change your "handle"??🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 5 minutes ago, Bob Rosadini said: And by the way, why did you change your "handle"??🤔 Ah I didn't want to keep using a handle from a crappy car I owned 20+ years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Sherminator98 said: Ah I didn't want to keep using a handle from a crappy car I owned 20+ years ago 👍 I get it -the opposite reason why I haven't changed my Avatar😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 The Ford Media website hasn't updated the F-650 information since the 2022 model year, and you want them to add air brakes to the gas engine? I agree though, it would be a good move.... I have been looking for the 2026 order guides and can't find them. 2026 production was supposed to start last week. My local Ford Commercial dealer hasn't had an F-650 or F-750 on the lot in ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearman54 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 6 hours ago, 7Mary3 said: The Ford Media website hasn't updated the F-650 information since the 2022 model year, and you want them to add air brakes to the gas engine? I agree though, it would be a good move.... I have been looking for the 2026 order guides and can't find them. 2026 production was supposed to start last week. My local Ford Commercial dealer hasn't had an F-650 or F-750 on the lot in ages. Here are the 2026 order guides you are looking for. 2026 E-Series Cutaway Order Guide.pdf 2026 Medium Duty F-650 & F-750 Order Guide.pdf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 10 hours ago, bearman54 said: Here are the 2026 order guides you are looking for. 2026 E-Series Cutaway Order Guide.pdf 464.64 kB · 6 downloads 2026 Medium Duty F-650 & F-750 Order Guide.pdf 905.2 kB · 21 downloads Thanks! I've added these order guides to the Dealer Order Guides section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 F-Medium can get air-brakes? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 41 minutes ago, twintornados said: F-Medium can get air-brakes? Yes but diesel only not gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 hours ago, akirby said: Yes but diesel only not gas. So, it should be a snap to get one in gas then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 https://www.ttnews.com/articles/dtna-oregon-sales-restart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 11 hours ago, twintornados said: So, it should be a snap to get one in gas then. You would think huh? But no, they can't afford to "engineer" it in or as I've been previously told the Godzilla creates too much underhood heat and they can't figure out how to handle that issue- an obvious BS excuse. And 7m, plenty of 650/750's in inventory in central Mass. One dealer has 15! as an aside, I did a Google earth of OAP the other day. completed yard is full of trucks....interesting either white, yellow (Penske?) or can't tell from aerial but either black or "Buster Brown". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted Wednesday at 02:14 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:14 PM 9 hours ago, Bob Rosadini said: You would think huh? But no, they can't afford to "engineer" it in or as I've been previously told the Godzilla creates too much underhood heat and they can't figure out how to handle that issue- an obvious BS excuse. The reason is probably true but the truth is they just can’t figure out how to do it without spending an enormous amount of money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted Friday at 05:16 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:16 PM https://www.freightwaves.com/news/the-day-after-speculation-abounds-on-california-trucking-regulation-with-no-acf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe771476 Posted Sunday at 04:22 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 04:22 PM On 1/13/2025 at 9:57 AM, Bob Rosadini said: Hah..I guess so. Seems simple doesn't it? What should be a relatively easy addition to the spec list is ignored and that addition would open up another market. I will spare you all the reasons why it makes sense..you have heard it before....so just humor me. Standing on that "hill" was what I was known for in my 44 yr career. Did I get a bloody nose every now and then?...yep!😎 But better than folding your tent when you know you are making sense. PS At least I'm not saying Ford should be back in class 8! I'll do that for ya Bob! They should get back into Class 8! They've made inroads here in CT having landed some F750 dump truck sales at the CTDOT. Freightliner must have talked officials into tandem axles to keep Ford out of that equation! It wouldn't be that hard for Ford to make a tandem or a tri-axle dump! Two long side rails, add some crossmembers, an engine/trans. and a dump body. By the way, I don't see any more than one Hino a month. For a while a few years ago, that was all I saw! Likewise, I don't see more than one Mercedes Sprinter van a month either! Transits followed by Ram Promasters are all I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe771476 Posted Sunday at 04:44 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 04:44 PM On 1/5/2025 at 10:57 AM, Bob Rosadini said: Another photo from "back in the day"..LT-9000....given exhaust system this would have been an 8V-71 Detroit. For you old guys who miss those days I was just watching Smokey and the Bandit 3 since I'd never seen it and noticed a few things. While the original movie was a GM commercial with almost every police cruiser and the Bandit Trans Am being Pontiacs and the truck tractor a GMC conventional, the third movie featured a Peterbilt, although Sheriff Justice was still driving a pitiful Pontiac something..not sure of the model. BTW, if there was going to be an episode of World's Dumbest Movies, this third movie would have been at the top of the list! After 10 minutes I couldn't watch anymore! But this pic of the L-series tanker above brought back a memory. I was at Universal Orlando back when the disaster movies were popular and the Earthquake ride had an L-series tractor/tanker that would blow up every 15 minutes!. I think it was either a mockup or maybe a real L-series shell that was gutted. Anyway, to top it off, apparently the tractor portion of one of visitor trams that hauled people around the grounds must have broken down so they used an L-series short wheel-based tractor like you'd see hauling trailer campers, to tow the tram cars! Boy did it look out of place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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