silvrsvt Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Are they even trying? Put a fusion front end on the car, add ST wheels and do a very mild change to the rest the car, voila 2015 Mustang :rolleyes: http://mustangsdaily.com/blog/2013/05/17/2015-ford-mustang-rendered-by-car-and-driver/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Yep, pretty lame render. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luv4beer Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Are they even trying? Put a fusion front end on the car, add ST wheels and do a very mild change to the rest the car, voila 2015 Mustang :rolleyes: http://mustangsdaily.com/blog/2013/05/17/2015-ford-mustang-rendered-by-car-and-driver/ From the Mike Brady School of Design. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stentgraft95 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Nope, they're not even trying. A fellow Mustang fan at work stopped me in the hall the other day and asked if I'd seen the 2015. I told him no one in the general public has yet and he said "wrong" so-and-so over in the warehouse has pictures and it looks awful, they ruined it". I told him that whatever he'd seen in that rendering was not the final car but he remained unconvinced and was more than sure that Ford ruined the Mustang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 For one thing, it's still an evolution of the current car, so while the styling will be brought up to date, the car will retain most of its current silhouette, size and proportions. People are expecting way too much change, far more than what's really needed to transform the Mustang into a new car full of zest, excitement and vitality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 ...A fellow Mustang fan at work stopped me in the hall the other day and asked if I'd seen the 2015. I told him no one in the general public has yet and he said "wrong" so-and-so over in the warehouse has pictures and it looks awful, they ruined it". I told him that whatever he'd seen in that rendering was not the final car but he remained unconvinced and was more than sure that Ford ruined the Mustang. tell him not apply his dating experiences to the Mustang 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Wonder if there will be a hatch-back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Wonder if there will be a hatch-back? Wouldn't bet on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Are we approaching parity between Mustang renders and automotive media outlets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Nope, they're not even trying. A fellow Mustang fan at work stopped me in the hall the other day and asked if I'd seen the 2015. I told him no one in the general public has yet and he said "wrong" so-and-so over in the warehouse has pictures and it looks awful, they ruined it". I told him that whatever he'd seen in that rendering was not the final car but he remained unconvinced and was more than sure that Ford ruined the Mustang. NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING is a given yet, no one has seen diddly aside from the actual stylists and engineers on the product, and theres a COMPLETE embargo....we just had a Ford Trainer here who is a Mustang nut, and they wont even give hints on drivetrains let alone anything else.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettech Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING is a given yet, no one has seen diddly aside from the actual stylists and engineers on the product, and theres a COMPLETE embargo....we just had a Ford Trainer here who is a Mustang nut, and they wont even give hints on drivetrains let alone anything else.... http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/alternative/1108_ford_evos_concept_first_look/viewall.html Well.. we do have this from Ford.. EVOS "...The thin C- and A-pillars are about thick enough to meet rollover crash standards, particularly with greater use of high-strength steels. The next Fusion and Taurus will ditch their thick C-pillars for this design language."You start to see the car that has a beautiful, simple profile. There's no trickery there. We're not trying to provoke customers. We're trying to seduce them."Next is "refined surface language." Mays allows there are cars in Ford's own portfolio that have too much "surface entertainment," particularly in the side surfacing.Like most concept cars, the Ford Evos has more show business than reality going on inside, though Mays points to a few realistic cues. The driver-oriented "inverted L-shaped" cockpit, with aluminum and other materials that are part of the interior's structure, and not just appliqués, hint at future Ford interiors. Chief technical officer Paul Mascarenas' Research & Innovation Center is looking at such features as cloud computing, monitoring the driver's health, and adaptive suspension damping for such cars. Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/alternative/1108_ford_evos_concept_first_look/viewall.html#ixzz2Ts2tupCV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING is a given yet, no one has seen diddly aside from the actual stylists and engineers on the product, and theres a COMPLETE embargo....we just had a Ford Trainer here who is a Mustang nut, and they wont even give hints on drivetrains let alone anything else.... Not surprising, this is about way more than just dealing with the Camaro. BMW and Audi and Infiniti are really not gonna like it, either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Not surprising, this is about way more than just dealing with the Camaro. BMW and Audi and Infiniti are really not gonna like it, either. dare I say it, but designing the 2015 Mustang could quite possible be the most nerve-racking assignment in Fords portfolio...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stentgraft95 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 dare I say it, but designing the 2015 Mustang could quite possible be the most nerve-racking assignment in Fords portfolio...... I know I'm not going out on a limb here but there probably be plenty of people disappointed with the new Mustang. Tradionalist will cry foul with the new design while others will be expecting something to compete with the Ferrari. In reality it will be an evolution of the great classic. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I know I'm not going out on a limb here but there probably be plenty of people disappointed with the new Mustang. Tradionalist will cry foul with the new design while others will be expecting something to compete with the Ferrari. In reality it will be an evolution of the great classic. I HOPE SO...delicate balance, and I pity the person responsible...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I know I'm not going out on a limb here but there probably be plenty of people disappointed with the new Mustang. Tradionalist will cry foul with the new design while others will be expecting something to compete with the Ferrari. In reality it will be an evolution of the great classic. You can count on it. Prediction: the longest, most passionate and, perhaps, nastiest thread ever on BON will start when we see the first good pics of the 2015 Mustang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 You can count on it. Prediction: the longest, most passionate and, perhaps, nastiest thread ever on BON will start when we see the first good pics of the 2015 Mustang. Most passionate and nastiest? Possibly. Longest? Well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 Most passionate and nastiest? Possibly. nah thats for the Ranger or maybe the Panther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 As for different styling, do remember, these where both on the same platform: and morphed into this (for better or worse) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryVIII Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Probably what till happen is teaser pics late this year and the actual reveal sometime early next year. Perhaps during the Detroit Auto show Jan. 18-26? http://www.freep.com/article/20130412/BUSINESS01/304120144/2014-North-American-International-Auto-Show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Lots of naysaysers will "get used to it" after a year, then complain about the next restyle. Rinse and Repeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Lots of naysaysers will "get used to it" after a year, then complain about the next restyle. Rinse and Repeat. The '99 refresh was shocking and took a minute for me to give in. I ended up driving a '01 and '04 Cobra (my now wife had a '99 V6 5spd). The '05 I was stoked from the jump. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted May 23, 2013 Author Share Posted May 23, 2013 The '99 refresh was shocking and took a minute for me to give in. Outside of the bullet and Cobra models I never really warmed up to it...I hated the roof that wasn't changed on it from the 1994-98. I'm glad I got a 98 before the change, but yeah it was kinda underwhelming in the performance dept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHV 16V Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 ...but yeah it was kinda underwhelming in the performance dept If you're stating that in comparison to the Camaro and Firebird of the day, then yes, you'd be correct. But the '99-'04 V6 and GT models were greatly improved over their '94-'98 forebears, especially in the engine room. The 3.8-liter V6 was upgraded to 190hp from 145, and the 4.6-liter in the GTs was upgraded to 260hp/302 lb.-ft. compared to the 215(225 in '98s)/280 it made when it first debuted in the '96 GT. Countless acceleration tests confirmed that those '96-'98 GTs were, at best, only as fast as the '94-'95s with the old 5.0-liter. Only '96-'98 SVT Cobras were hugely better thanks to the DOHC 4.6. In fact, keen observers would note that the '99-'04 GTs regularly clocked the same 0-60 and quarter-mile times of the naturally-aspirated '99 and '01 SVT Cobras. (No Cobra models in 2000, only the 300 red Cobra Rs). And I'm assuming the ultra-rare 2002 SVT Cobras (yes they did build 100 of them) would be the same as the '99-'01s, cause it was the next year that the supercharged Cobras arrived. I remember this like yesterday, most mags returning a 0-60 time of 5.4 seconds for both GT and ('99-'01)SVT Cobra models. With the quarter-mile times usually @13.97 or 13.98. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97svtgoin05gt Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 If you're stating that in comparison to the Camaro and Firebird of the day, then yes, you'd be correct. But the '99-'04 V6 and GT models were greatly improved over their '94-'98 forebears, especially in the engine room. The 3.8-liter V6 was upgraded to 190hp from 145, and the 4.6-liter in the GTs was upgraded to 260hp/302 lb.-ft. compared to the 215(225 in '98s)/280 it made when it first debuted in the '96 GT. Countless acceleration tests confirmed that those '96-'98 GTs were, at best, only as fast as the '94-'95s with the old 5.0-liter. Only '96-'98 SVT Cobras were hugely better thanks to the DOHC 4.6. In fact, keen observers would note that the '99-'04 GTs regularly clocked the same 0-60 and quarter-mile times of the naturally-aspirated '99 and '01 SVT Cobras. (No Cobra models in 2000, only the 300 red Cobra Rs). And I'm assuming the ultra-rare 2002 SVT Cobras (yes they did build 100 of them) would be the same as the '99-'01s, cause it was the next year that the supercharged Cobras arrived. I remember this like yesterday, most mags returning a 0-60 time of 5.4 seconds for both GT and ('99-'01)SVT Cobra models. With the quarter-mile times usually @13.97 or 13.98. I remember this vividly myself because after just purchasing a beautiful '97 GT convertible I nearly lost to a Nissan Maxima from the same year. Their stout V6 nearly ate my lunch and I sold the car shortly thereafter. Went for the '97 Cobra convertible which was used but a good deal more stout than the GT. I'd be willing to say out loud that the 4.6 OHCs from '96-'98 were basically slow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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