silvrsvt Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Thank goodness they are dropping the nondescript and generic MKS model letters. The best car Ford builds should be called a Lincoln Continental. Now work on giving the rest of your line real names and identities when you replace the models. Using alpha-numeric naming schemes just because other luxury brands do it is a mistake. Lincoln will never get anywhere just copying. So they going to bring back the Zephyr name for the MKZ? :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Didn't Zephyr to MkZ happen sooner than they originally said? If memory serves anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005Explorer Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 So they going to bring back the Zephyr name for the MKZ? :p Personally I'd much rather see that car called the Zephyr again instead of MKZ. What does MKZ mean anyway Mark Zephyr? Doesn't make any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBirdStangSkyliner Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 So they going to bring back the Zephyr name for the MKZ? :p If they kept the trademark on "Premier", that would be a good name for the MKZ. I've heard "Zefire" through the years from people's lips as much as "Zephyr". The lack of marketing the car didn't help with bringing back a name that hadn't been spoken in America since the days of art deco. Capri could be the name of a Mustang based Lincoln if one ever happens. The Mercury versions are mostly forgotten in the USA. The prowess of the original Lincon models could be alluded to in ads and brochures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005Explorer Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 If they kept the trademark on "Premier", that would be a good name for the MKZ. I've heard "Zefire" through the years from people's lips as much as "Zephyr". The lack of marketing the car didn't help with bringing back a name that hadn't been spoken in America since the days of art deco. Capri could be the name of a Mustang based Lincoln if one ever happens. The Mercury versions are mostly forgotten in the USA. The prowess of the original Lincon models could be alluded to in ads and brochures. For some reason when I think of Premier I always think of Eagle Premier. The car that was supposed to be a Renault Premier until Chrysler bought out AMC and got that oddball in the deal. They could rename the MKZ the Versailles. Then again... Bad idea! I'm guessing more people mispronounced Versailles then they did Zephyr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBirdStangSkyliner Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Lincoln doesn't need a priest as the GM guy said, but the Versailles is past getting last rites. I actually had one for my driver's ed car in a public school. I wonder what the back story was to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I like the name Sentinel. (Was used on a concept) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBirdStangSkyliner Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 That was definitely better than the "Machete", hopefully they trademarked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnV Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) The more I look at it, the more I like it. To echo what has already been stated, I hope they don't screw up the production version. The color is really nice. The interior color is beautiful. One thing that probably won't make production is the 4-seat configuration. It looks amazing and very comfortable, but it's harder to sell a 4-seat full-size car than a 5-seat version. Perhaps the 4-seat configuration will be available as an option. Here's an interesting article about how the designers became more inspired when they applied the Continental name to the project. http://www.autoblog.com/2015/03/30/how-the-lincoln-continental-concept-almost-wasnt/ I'm seeing a number of comments on the web praising bringing back the Continental name. I think people are tired of cars identified with numbers/letters. Edited March 31, 2015 by LincolnV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Didn't Zephyr to MkZ happen sooner than they originally said? If memory serves anyway. 2006 was the only year it was called that, 2007 had a new grill and the MKZ name. I was just looking at the Wiki entry on it and man that dash is just awful looking on the Zephyr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Right, but when they first came out with MkNaming they said Zephyr would stick around. Tgat lasted a month. http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/mkz-zephyr-lincoln-sedan-gets-new-name-engine-and-look-07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBirdStangSkyliner Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) Autonews is quoting Matt VanDyke that the return of the Continental name doesn't necessarily mean the end of the MK naming scheme. Edited March 31, 2015 by TBirdStangSkyliner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) Dayum......Bentley Designer Calls Out Lincoln Continental In Brutal Facebook Diss Do you want us to send the product tooling? That’s what Bentley designer Luc Donckerwolke posted on Lincoln designer David Woodhouse’s Facebook page, a comment that was swiftly deleted but captured by the excellent Car Design News. Let me tell you, Bentley went off on Lincoln.Donckerwolke also posted on his own Facebook calling out the 2016 Lincoln Continental as a ripoff. “I would have called it a Flying Spur concept and kept the four round lights.” Another designer commented “I thought this was only done in China? Finally a ‘Bentley for the masses’ though...” From the comments: Edited March 31, 2015 by Intrepidatious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Wow, I didn't realize how much it looked like the Bentley until you posted those two pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traxiii Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I really like the look except for the inset grill. If it were pushed out flush, it would be amazing. That being said, the back end and interior are really sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 If it drives/looks/feels/whatever better then a Bentley, who's going to have the last laugh? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Wow, I didn't realize how much it looked like the Bentley until you posted those two pics. Restitution for Bentley using a Lincoln model name for so long? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traxiii Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) Dayum...... Bentley Designer Calls Out Lincoln Continental In Brutal Facebook Diss From the comments: If Bentley wants to play rough, they'll have to find a new name for their sedan maybe? Yes, there are some similar lines or queues, but I can see present model Taurus and other things in there too. There are just so many ways to massage away on a 4-door sedan of similar size. Edited March 31, 2015 by traxiii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Hatter Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 There is undeniable similarities to the Flying Spur and XJ. However, it is sufficiently different. But maybe Bentley needs to acknowledge how they and others were evolutionally influenced by the Telnack-era Fords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzach Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I love the car. I agree with the others that say the weakest thing is the bumb up in the middle of the grill bottom. I did think Kia when I saw it ( or 1/2 Kia anyway). Love the chrome applique with Continental written in it on the side. Absolutely love the chrome on the interior but doubt it will stay for production ( visibility of the buttons). Definitely think this is a platform mate with the CD4 Taurus and therefore fwd/awd not RWD, maybe the next one. Finally I am not buying the whole designers didn't know where to go with this until the name change to Continental. Really, these guys are professional designers working on a clean sheet design for a struggling division. Mark Feilds: "We need to replace the MKS and it need to help move Lincoln forward and increase market share". Designers: "OK Mark here is some more boring designs because we don't know what direction to go to design a Lincoln even though it is our job". Mark: "We decided to change the name and call it a Continental". Only the most famous Lincoln of all time and known for its design, no way a new MKS could look like that. Designers: " Duh! now we know what to do." OK right and if you believe that story I have a bridge to sell you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Do you want us to send the product tooling? That’s what Bentley designer Luc Donckerwolke posted on Lincoln designer David Woodhouse’s Facebook page, a comment that was swiftly deleted but captured by the excellent Car Design News. Let me tell you, Bentley went off on Lincoln. A part of me appreciates that the Lincoln boys appear to have taken the high road. A part of me, however, would love to have seen Mr Woodhouse respond: David Woodhouse: Do you want us to send you some spare nameplates? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Well, if what I'm seeing online has any bearing on sales....this will be very popular with rappers and drug dealers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 It will be very interesting to see how much this design influences the rest of the Lincoln line as the reskins hit the schedule. The grill, for example. Imagine the next Navi with a version of this grill. I think that could be very good looking. Likewise the Aviator. More interesting is how this design could influence the next MKZ. If the MKZ adheres to these themes, it might look somewhat like a Jaguar, which would be just fine, since everyone sees an Aston in the Fusion. These design themes would look fantastic on a car the size of the MKZ - not aping each bend, but using the themes on a smaller canvas. I can't wait to see what they will do going forward! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Well, if what I'm seeing online has any bearing on sales....this will be very popular with rappers and drug dealers. Don't think Ford cares, as long as they get their money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzach Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I will be interested also to see if some of the details of this car spread to the rest of the line up. . I would love to see the chrome around the bottom of the car used on other cars in is very sharp. . As for the grill, if the repeating star is going to be used it could be used in any shape grill. This would create the family look without restricting designers with a pre-determined shape. I also would like to see the chrome side applique with the model name in it on all Lincolns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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