J-150 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 People obviously buy Prius for the MPG and not much else. And I have to give them credit for delivering on that aspect - better than Ford. With a little bit of lifestyle and appearance thrown in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Harger Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Anyone else thinks it looks like an iron man suit that the hulk picked up and crushed? The only thing sadder than how many will sell is we will have to look at them on the road everyday... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Anyone else thinks it looks like an iron man suit that the hulk picked up and crushed? The only thing sadder than how many will sell is we will have to look at them on the road everyday...The only hope we have of that not happening is the low price of gas is killing hybrid sales across the board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Harger Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Just wait for the elections. I'm sure that will have an effect on gas prices and hybrids by extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Sour grapes fellas. Kev Mo is right, the car will still sell in substantial numbers regardless of what we here think about how it looks. Let's be honest Ford has made some ugly stuff over the years too. Most recently the Flex comes to mind. The only difference is that Ford's ugly stuff doesn't sell and Toyota's does. 4Rrunner sales are up - and with those hideous bulging head and tail lights. Toyota is very good at knowing their customer. That is why they are #1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerM Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 ...the MPG and not much else... - better than Ford. The "else" is where Ford seems better to me. I haven't driven a Ford that I'd say I couldn't live with for at least a decade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 The "else" is where Ford seems better to me. I haven't driven a Ford that I'd say I couldn't live with for at least a decade. Exactly - and that's where I thought Fusion hybrid and C-Max for that matter would end up with a big advantage but it sure hasn't worked out that way. At least not to the extent I expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 So many buyers are ignorant of the fact that the fusion hybrid even exists. The Prius was the first successful hybrid. Since the "image" is 50% of the reason to buy a hybrid, nothing else competes with the Prius. Of course it's not lacking in MPGs either, which is the other 50%. In short, the Prius is successful for no other reason than because it says "Prius" on the back and has a 40-something mpg sticker in the window. What are other auto manufactures to do about this? I have no idea. Ford was starting to get some name recognition with the Escape hybrid as the original hybrid utility, but they seem to have abandoned that in favor of EcoBoost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 4Rrunner sales are up - and with those hideous bulging head and tail lights. Toyota is very good at knowing their customer. That is why they are #1. So many buyers are ignorant of the fact that the fusion hybrid even exists. The Prius was the first successful hybrid. Since the "image" is 50% of the reason to buy a hybrid, nothing else competes with the Prius. Of course it's not lacking in MPGs either, which is the other 50%. In short, the Prius is successful for no other reason than because it says "Prius" on the back and has a 40-something mpg sticker in the window. What are other auto manufactures to do about this? I have no idea. Ford was starting to get some name recognition with the Escape hybrid as the original hybrid utility, but they seem to have abandoned that in favor of EcoBoost. Well, they went the C-Max route instead of a new Escape Hybrid. That was their attempt at a unique Prius-like vehicle. But we all know how that has turned out. It seemed to be doing well - gaining traction, and then both fuel economy reassessments killed it....sales dropped after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang_sallad Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 BlackHorse has been suspended for two weeks. Holy smokes this forum is ridiculous. the guy made a perfectly valid contribution to what was otherwise a very boring and unsurprising slice of internet - Ford fans ripping on an ugly Toyota. I didn't think it was that bad when I saw the spy shots, but yeah, they went way overboard. But look at the Prius vs Civic Hybrid - maybe the Prius was just a better car, but most would agree that a lot of Prius buyers like to stand out. I see a little bit of 2nd gen NA Ford Focus in this thing - also a great example of BlackHorse's point about ugly Fords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Holy smokes this forum is ridiculous. BlackHorse had been warned, repeatedly, over the past week about exactly that kind of conduct. Nearly all regular contributors to this forum were in agreement that the overall tone of the site had gotten too toxic. I took a week off because I didn't like how I was acting on the forum. I am not going to apologize for enforcing a measure of civility on someone who has been a persistent troublemaker on this board. I might also mention that Intrepidatious--our newest moderator, and the owner of a family of Chrysler forums--fully supported this suspension. Perhaps it would behoove you to either read more of this forum or, at the very least, assume that we know what we're doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Well, I think Toyota should, in some ways, be applauded. They were forever being condemned for bland, vanilla designs. The actual execution of their new design language may not be there, but at least they are trying to be less vanilla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I've long since given up trying to understand what buyers like, it comes down to personal taste. That only becomes an issue when people stop buying your products... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I really think the sideview is very sharp but as soon as you start to turn towards the front or rear, omg... what an awful looking car. But agree with most, it's going to sell because of what it is, not what it looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 They don't care about looks. I think that goes even more so for the Prius - they buy it because it's a Prius, certainly not because of how it looks. Heck, Toyota could've probably released the Aztek and found buyers for it on name alone lol. Does every manufacturer release an ugly vehicle from time to time? Sure! But it seems like the Japanese are making a habit out of it lately. Holy shit you're right! Someone finally took a page out of Toyotas playbook, saw nothing but $$$, and welll.... we all know how that worked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Unfortunately this will decently sell. Operative word bolded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kun Liu Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 The front end is like just crashed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored of Pisteon Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 The front end of this looks like the "Predator" creature (without the fangs). Toyota: Making ugly vehicles for how many years now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Something to think about with the Prius. Remember how Volvo was the 'safety' brand? Like that was their whole schtick? Safety! Well, where's Volvo at now that mandated safety features are everywhere? Same deal with the Prius range. Eventually, you're going to have hybrid powertrains in most vehicles, and then what's the reason for buying a Prius? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored of Pisteon Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I have no reason to buy a Prius, they are just too small for my needs and the cost of maintaining them long term, as well as licensing and insurance. Plus, getting into an accident in one. Ahh, no thanks. I want to walk away from one, not be extracted out a sardine can. By the way...That Volvo has got to be an early 1980's model. Too young to drive then...HAHA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Plus, getting into an accident in one. Ahh, no thanks. I want to walk away from one, not be extracted out a sardine can. I bet you'd have a better chance of walking away in a new Prius vs. a 1980s Crown Vic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Prius (Regular not C) is within 4" of an Escape isn't it? (Footprint I mean). It's not a small car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 BTW: That Volvo ad explains something I've wondered about for a long time: Why all the holes in Volvo headrests? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 BTW: That Volvo ad explains something I've wondered about for a long time: Why all the holes in Volvo headrests? "Increasing the chances of seeing what's coming up behind you." Pretty sure, that's what side mirrors do...:facepalm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 "Increasing the chances of seeing what's coming up behind you." Pretty sure, that's what side mirrors do...:facepalm If you can see the same thing in your rear view and side mirrors, your side mirrors aren't aimed properly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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