blwnsmoke Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 http://www.off-road.com/blog/2016/06/16/ford-touts-new-10-speed-transmission-for-2017-f-150-raptor/ To usher in the new 10-speed transmission that Ford will be showcasing in its 2017 F-150, as well as the 2017 Raptor, Ford is putting “all 10 gears” on display by showing off the truck’s new instrumentation panel. Ford says that its all-new transmission is the first volume-production 10-speed automatic available to consumers, and the company also wants to make sure you’re aware it is Ford built! The blue oval says the new 10-speed will be an upgrade in both acceleration and performance compared to its previous six-speed automatic transmissions. Ford says the wide-span gear spacing and “drag-reduction actions” are to thank, while three overdrive gears and a wider span overall enables lower-numerical rear-axle ratios to help improve fuel efficiency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Careful what you wish for........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Is that gear indicator real or just a cute marketing image to tout the 10 speed? Please tell me that isn't real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Is that gear indicator real or just a cute marketing image to tout the 10 speed? Please tell me that isn't real. It's real. It's not a selector, it just shows what gear it's currently in. I seriously hope is A. Doesn't make it to other models, and B. Doesn't last longer than MY2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 That font must be tiny as hell......this is one of those areas that needs to be digital IMO..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 That font must be tiny as hell......this is one of those areas that needs to be digital IMO..... I probably is and it looks a little much. Maybe it'll change at production time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer, but that is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever seen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 That font must be tiny as hell......this is one of those areas that needs to be digital IMO..... I was thinking of a small screen with rotating font where the current gear number get enlarged and highlighted in a different color. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Hopefully some of those gears are optimized for speeds over 60. Kind of useless for highway mpg if 10th gear kicks in at 50mph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) Hopefully some of those gears are optimized for speeds over 60. Kind of useless for highway mpg if 10th gear kicks in at 50mph Compared to GM 8-speed aut ot looks like 5th & 9th are two extra ratios in the 10-speed that reduce gaps at key positions. First: 4.70 Second: 2.99 Third: 2.15 Fourth: 1.80 Fifth: 1.52 Sixth: 1.28 Seventh: 1.00 Eighth: 0.85 Ninth: 0.69 Tenth: 0.64 Reverse: 4.87 Edited June 18, 2016 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 Hopefully some of those gears are optimized for speeds over 60. Kind of useless for highway mpg if 10th gear kicks in at 50mph Wouldn't the 3 overdrive gears be optimized for highway speeds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer, but that is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Considering that isn't a word.. not so sure lol.. sorry, I had to.. Edited June 18, 2016 by blwnsmoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) Considering that isn't a word.. not so sure lol.. sorry, I had to.. Sorry, I should have written "most dumberer".? ? Edited June 18, 2016 by Anthony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 I was just wondering if they were going to show all 10 like they do on the current 6 speed. I bet it stays since you can likely still lock out the upper gears. Personally, I think it's pretty cool. First to second seems like a big jump compared to the rest, and 9th and 10th seem ridiculously close. Second is 64% of first and 10th is 93% of 9th. I'm sure it's all designed to give the EcoBoost the best fuel economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucelinc Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Maybe a digital display of just the gear you are in would be preferable but I don't really see anything prohibitively stupidumb about this arrangement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 It would allow them to visually show that some gears were not available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Maybe a digital display of just the gear you are in would be preferable but I don't really see anything prohibitively stupidumb about this arrangement. That's what most cars with auto-shift do. I think that is a better arrangement than showing every single gear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 It would allow them to visually show that some gears were not available. Bingo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazerdude20 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) That's what most cars with auto-shift do. I think that is a better arrangement than showing every single gear. This isn't to really let you know what gear you're in though. It's to show you all of the gears so that you can lock out upper gears when towing or in mountains. There is +/- toggle on the gear selector for it. Edited June 18, 2016 by blazerdude20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 That's what most cars with auto-shift do. I think that is a better arrangement than showing every single gear. But the F150 isn't 'most cars'. Most cars don't allow you to lock out the top gears for towing either. The current F150 has the same setup so I expect it to stick around. Now, how long before the Super Duty gets a 10 speed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 But the F150 isn't 'most cars'. Most cars don't allow you to lock out the top gears for towing either. The current F150 has the same setup so I expect it to stick around. Now, how long before the Super Duty gets a 10 speed? My source is telling me 2018MY. He has driven several of them and says they drive extremely well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 My source is telling me 2018MY. He has driven several of them and says they drive extremely well. Gas and diesel both? That should be perfect for a '19 MY order for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) Gas and diesel both? That should be perfect for a '19 MY order for me. Have no info on gas.. just know that they've been running around Dearborn for over a year with the 10speed and he has had several of them that he has driven for testing (all diesels). He has taken another buddy of mine for a ride in one (King Rancher). He had thought that they would be in the 2017MY but waiting till order time to announce it to put one up on GM... but that didn't happen. My guess is 2017 "All new aluminum SD" was enough excitement and then for 2018 "All new 10 speed" would create another "got to have it" environment. Very smart IMO. The other question would be.. does Ford at this moment have the capacity for the 10 speed in both F150 and SD trucks?? With the investment they announced, that could be the other reason at this moment to hold off a year. So... strategic or capacity issues?? or a little of both? Edited June 18, 2016 by blwnsmoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Wouldn't the 3 overdrive gears be optimized for highway speeds? Depends on the rpm at 75mph and when the transmission up shifts to those gears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 But the F150 isn't 'most cars'. Most cars don't allow you to lock out the top gears for towing either. The current F150 has the same setup so I expect it to stick around. Now, how long before the Super Duty gets a 10 speed? I guess I am all for simple when it comes to displays. A simple icon can let me know I'm in towing mode instead of 10 icons indicating what gears are not available because I'm in towing mode. Granted I don't tow, so if the folks who actual do tow find it useful, then there ya go! I just dislike cluttered interfaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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