ANTAUS Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 http://www.autoblog.com/2017/07/26/ford-gets-earnings-boost-taurus-and-c-max-may-be-dropped/?hcid=ab-around-ab-tile-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Might drop Taurus and C-Max. And the sun might rise in the East tomorrow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Change "might" to "will" Taurus is 100% for sure done after MY2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 And its only the start..more is to come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Change "might" to "will" Taurus is 100% for sure done after MY2018. Wouldn't that technically kill it off by next Spring/Summer? I wouldn't expect the new Explorer till 2019 CY at the earliest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 The great part is that Taurus is built alongside the popular Explorer, and as sales reduce for Taurus, that production is given over to Explorer. so Ford can dribble out production fir as long as it wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Wouldn't that technically kill it off by next Spring/Summer? I wouldn't expect the new Explorer till 2019 CY at the earliest. I don't know the exact timing, all I was told is that MY2018 will be the last for the Taurus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 The great part is that Taurus is built alongside the popular Explorer, and as sales reduce for Taurus, that production is given over to Explorer. so Ford can dribble out production fir as long as it wants. Not sure if Ford can really increase sales 50-70K alone with the Explorer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) Not sure if Ford can really increase sales 50-70K alone with the Explorer. Given the Age of Explorer, it's still selling quite well and look at production last month and YTD Taurus...............4385 (5,522)........29,303 (30,695) Explorer...........29,407 (26,917)......167,775 (167,640) TOTAL.............33,792 (32,439).....,197,078 (201,449) Perhaps you're right on the ability to replace all Taurus production with Explorer, it seems like the taurus is holding strong at the numbers you mentioned and, is there an Aviator on the way with the NG Explorer whenerver that drops... Ford sure works its plants hard. Edited July 27, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Yes Aviator is on the way with the new Explorer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailhiker Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Total doesn't seem right for previous year (198,335) would be correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) Total doesn't seem right for previous year (198,335) would be correct. 2016 sales were - 216,294 and 32,213 PIU. That does not include Canadian Sales which are 15,275. Edited July 27, 2017 by jasonj80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 If and when Taurus is killed off...a couple of ideas come to mind.....give next gen Fusion a 4-6 inch stretch for a Taurus "up-model" or just import the Chinese version here to fill the smaller market niche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 If and when Taurus is killed off...a couple of ideas come to mind.....give next gen Fusion a 4-6 inch stretch for a Taurus "up-model" or just import the Chinese version here to fill the smaller market niche. We already know that Focus is growing in size so it only makes sense to grow the Fusion too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) Not sure if Ford can really increase sales 50-70K alone with the Explorer. Lincoln version can probably take up 30~40k of that volume between North America and China. And you figure that the new model may actually lift Explorer volume a bit. And the extra volume may allow Ford to significantly expand the export program. I would imagine that between China, Australia, and Middle East, there is easily another 20~30k Explorer volume if there is no supply constrain. Edited July 27, 2017 by bzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 (edited) Total doesn't seem right for previous year (198,335) would be correct. Sorry, my bad as I omitted MKS production Plant is still on track to produce around 380K this year, maybe more Edited July 28, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Lincoln version can probably take up 30~40k of that volume between North America and China. And you figure that the new model may actually lift Explorer volume a bit. And the extra volume may allow Ford to significantly expand the export program. I would imagine that between China, Australia, and Middle East, there is easily another 20~30k Explorer volume if there is no supply constrain. I was figuring if the Taurus goes away 18MY, the new Explorer and Lincoln Explorer might not show up for another 12-18 months after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I was figuring if the Taurus goes away 18MY, the new Explorer and Lincoln Explorer might not show up for another 12-18 months after that. Aviator is a 2020 model Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 (edited) Aviator is a 2020 model Thinking that if NG Explorer launch happened in September 2018 as a MY19, then Aviator could launch 4-6 months later as a MY20.... Do you think that is likely or will both be launched in 2019 as MY20s? Edited July 28, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Thinking that if NG Explorer launch happened in September 2018 as a MY19, then Aviator could launch 4-6 months later as a MY20.... Do you think that is likely or will both be launched in 2019 as MY20s? No idea about Explorer. All I know is Aviator is a 2020 model. No idea when it's supposed to launch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Where will these early 2019 Cmax be coming from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Pretty sure CMAX is dead. That roadmap was from last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I was figuring if the Taurus goes away 18MY, the new Explorer and Lincoln Explorer might not show up for another 12-18 months after that. Well, maybe Ford will build an extra 50k D4 Explorer for inventory while Chicago is shut down to retool for CD6 Explorer and Aviator in 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) I know that CD6 is primarily for Explorer and Aviator but would another Taurus based on that platform be out of the question? Thinking of something that can still share a lot of Explorer parts and be built down the same line as incremental production... Edited July 31, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I know that CD6 is primarily for Explorer and Aviator but would another Taurus based on that platform be out of the question? Thinking of something that can still share a lot of Explorer parts and be built down the same line as incremental production... More likely it would share the Lincoln CD6 sedan platform which most of us assume is still in the works although maybe delayed thanks to Fields. If done it would be a lower volume, higher ATP performance sedan. It would need Lincoln versions to help pay for the platform development. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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