akirby Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I wouldn't count on it haha. I wouldn't bet on it. Jinx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) I wouldn't bet on it. I have a feeling it's going to be DOA with the next gen Mustang. I bet it sticks around for Mustang and F150. Unless they add a 4.xL V8 EcoBoost to the mix. Edited February 16, 2018 by fordmantpw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I bet it sticks around for Mustang and F150. Unless they add a 4.xL V8 EcoBoost to the mix. That's what I'm thinking. 4.2L ecoboost V8 or something to that effect. Was it listed in that engine oil document that was posted a few weeks ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Found it and saved a copy. No 5.0 (or any supercharged V8 other than the GT500 5.2L). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) That's what I'm thinking. 4.2L ecoboost V8 or something to that effect. Was it listed in that engine oil document that was posted a few weeks ago? Nope: http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index.php?/topic/64233-mustang-shelby-gt500-rumors-starting-to-leak-out/&do=findComment&comment=1015957 EDIT: You beat me by thaaaaaat much... Edited February 16, 2018 by fordmantpw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I just find it hard to believe that Ford will drop the V8 from Mustang and F150. In 10 years, sure, but not before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Well, that's certainly not a confirmed source nor is it necessarily all of the available engines. There's always hope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) Found it and saved a copy. No 5.0 (or any supercharged V8 other than the GT500 5.2L). I see 5.0L PFDI (I think it's an F) in the 2nd row of the 4 box/row down, after 3.3L PFDI. Edited February 16, 2018 by rmc523 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I see 5.0L PFDI (I think it's an F) in the 2nd row of the 4 box/row down, after 3.3L PFDI. You're right - I see it now. Totally missed it. That makes more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadicalX Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) I just find it hard to believe that Ford will drop the V8 from Mustang and F150. In 10 years, sure, but not before. V8 engines are time-counted! There will be no room for this type of engine soon. I can easily see a Mustang GT hybrid. Remembering that Ford already had the courage to make aluminum pickup and Ford GT with V6 engine Edited February 16, 2018 by RadicalX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I see 5.0L PFDI (I think it's an F) in the 2nd row of the 4 box/row down, after 3.3L PFDI. Good call! You're right - I see it now. Totally missed it. That makes more sense. Same here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 V8 engines are time-counted! There will be no room for this type of engine soon. I can easily see a Mustang GT hybrid. Remembering that Ford already had the courage to make aluminum pickup and Ford GT with V6 engine There is a hybrid Mustang coming. It was announced over a year ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 You're right - I see it now. Totally missed it. That makes more sense. Good call! Same here! I can see how you both missed it - it's hard to clearly read small numbers on the the grainy image. I had to look closely through them all to find it. What's interesting to note though.......we know a hybrid Mustang and F-150 are coming. Yet there's no 5.0 HEV on that list. only 3.0 HEV and 3.3 HEV (that could reasonably apply to either of these models). I'm guessing it'll be the 3.3 HEV, as the F-150 already has the 3.3 as the standard engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadicalX Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I can see how you both missed it - it's hard to clearly read small numbers on the the grainy image. I had to look closely through them all to find it. What's interesting to note though.......we know a hybrid Mustang and F-150 are coming. Yet there's no 5.0 HEV on that list. only 3.0 HEV and 3.3 HEV (that could reasonably apply to either of these models). I'm guessing it'll be the 3.3 HEV, as the F-150 already has the 3.3 as the standard engine. 3.0 HEV may be the engine of Mach 1. And the 3.3 HEV some unique engine for some Lincoln variant. I don't think Ford can take back the decision to make Lincoln as big and relevant as Audi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I can see how you both missed it - it's hard to clearly read small numbers on the the grainy image. I had to look closely through them all to find it. What's interesting to note though.......we know a hybrid Mustang and F-150 are coming. Yet there's no 5.0 HEV on that list. only 3.0 HEV and 3.3 HEV (that could reasonably apply to either of these models). I'm guessing it'll be the 3.3 HEV, as the F-150 already has the 3.3 as the standard engine. I don't think the F150 HEV will come with the 5.0 at all. I would expect the 3.3 like you mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudz64 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) The 3.0 GTDI HEV is the Ecsoboost Lincoln 3.0 with hybrid addition...might be shared with Mustang but thats whats going into the Aviator. Maybe Navigator too? I think the 3.3 V6 DI Hybrid (non EB) might be for the F-150, maybe Explorer, Expedition? I think were starting to see the Lincoln Hybrid path they will take...use it to boost power AND efficiency and sell it as the top performeance engine. That 3.O V6 GTDI HEV will push pit 450+ hp! Edited February 16, 2018 by spudz64 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 personally i think they may go, but come back as a 'fad"....I swear...all this downsizing may actually cause backlash....and then theres the new 7.0 being released..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) I don't think the F150 HEV will come with the 5.0 at all. I would expect the 3.3 like you mention.I wouldn't expect the 5.0 to be used in a hybrid light truck, anyway. The whole point is to use a small(er), more efficient engine and make up the difference with electric motors. Well, unless you're GM and making a non-hybrid hybrid truck. Edited February 16, 2018 by SoonerLS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 personally i think they may go, but come back as a 'fad"....I swear...all this downsizing may actually cause backlash....and then theres the new 7.0 being released..... All the reports indicate that the 7X is supposed to be a replacement for the V10, which means it's highly unlikely to show up in anything other than the F-Series, E-Series, and Transit. I just don't see them stuffing a truck engine into a Mustang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Sooner...not what i meant....I just dont see the V8 as an engine configuration going away...ESPECIALLY in certain applications...a GT mustang sans V8 is HERESY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Sooner...not what i meant....I just dont see the V8 as an engine configuration going away...ESPECIALLY in certain applications...a GT mustang sans V8 is HERESY! I see. Yup, I agree with that. The only way Ford drops V8s in the F-Series is if absolutely everyone drops them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Same here! Really? Wow, that never happens..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 The 3.0 GTDI HEV is the Ecsoboost Lincoln 3.0 with hybrid addition...might be shared with Mustang but thats whats going into the Aviator. Maybe Navigator too? I think the 3.3 V6 DI Hybrid (non EB) might be for the F-150, maybe Explorer, Expedition? I think were starting to see the Lincoln Hybrid path they will take...use it to boost power AND efficiency and sell it as the top performeance engine. That 3.O V6 GTDI HEV will push pit 450+ hp! Winner winner chicken dinner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader 10 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I don’t think there’s a snowball’s chance in hell of a v-8 in any car or SUV - Ford or Lincoln - other than the Mustang from here forward. I don’t see any new V-8’s being developed either. - just more improvements to the Coyote for the Mustang/F 150. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 The 3.0 GTDI HEV is the Ecsoboost Lincoln 3.0 with hybrid addition...might be shared with Mustang but thats whats going into the Aviator. Maybe Navigator too? I think the 3.3 V6 DI Hybrid (non EB) might be for the F-150, maybe Explorer, Expedition? I think were starting to see the Lincoln Hybrid path they will take...use it to boost power AND efficiency and sell it as the top performeance engine. That 3.O V6 GTDI HEV will push pit 450+ hp! The question is which brand will get what. I just assumed Mustang would share F-150's powerplant, like it does with the 5.0. Which is why I suggested the 3.3HEV is what Mustang will get. And since the 3.0 is (for now) Lincoln exclusive, therefore, Lincolns would use the 3.0HEV, Explorer could also use this version too to help generate more economies of scale for that powertrain program that Lincoln wouldn't be able to produce on its' own. Another interesting question though.......displacement taxes ROW. Isn't 3.0 a ceiling before higher taxes kick in? That would also support its usage in Lincoln products with China sales becoming more and more important to the brand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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