ice-capades Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Once the current Focus ends in a few weeks I believe that leaves the E-Series as the only thing left in the Ford lineup with available crank windows. Actually, you can still get an F-Series with crank windows. We got stuck with a 2017 F-350 DRW 4x4 Crew Cab, XL Trim, Diesel with crank windows but were able to sell it to a customer about 6 months later that wanted just that vehicle for his business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 (edited) [ picture of rather lumpy "WORLD'S BEST PLATFORM" mug I can't hot link here ] Edited April 16, 2018 by 2b2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 It never really has been, until the 2015-up variants. Pony cars in general are parts-bin specials...in the Mustang's case, sharing bits from Falcons, Pintos, Fairmonts (for-freakin'-ever), the LS/TBird (DEW98), and even the current car (S-550) is technically a massive evolution of the '05-'14 variants (IIRC). I guess the next platform'd better be pretty special.... Not really. The 2005 model started as DEW98 but by the time they finished it was 98% bespoke with only the floor pan and fuel tank remaining. I don’t think the new one will be that much different. In fact I suspect they’re using a lot of S550 design and parts for the CD6 architecture. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Ironically this new architecture system would have been started under Fields. Good job Hackett. Was actually started under Mulally and parts were even started under Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader 10 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 If this article is accurate, it looks like Edge ands Nautilus will soon part ways. It describes the CD6 architecture as “unibody rear wheel drive car”. Hopefully we will get several cars from that platform and not just crossovers. It also mentions a new truck/SUV architecture. Wonder if the next F150 (2021?) will be on the new platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Yes, it’s the hybrid F series platform for 2020 or 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) Well that confirms this is also the architecture for NG Edge...and presumably Fusion if they keep that. This is the first time I've heard this platform referred to as a flexible platform like MQB, they didn't connect those dots previously. I'm always very dubious about a vehicle architecture engineered for cost being scaled as far as up as Edge which will cost 3X as much as its cheapest platform mate. But, we'll see what happens. With the added flexibility, I expect that teh architecture can go SWB to LWB but also narrow to wide. With that. I think the products will: 1) fit under the envelope of one flexible platform and 2) be different enough in size to justify expected price range. Rider clause, Most products will be used in ROW and China with Escape and edge being priority in Nth America. I could see a NG Mondeo rvolved off this platform for China and ROW but maybe something on RWD CD6 to serve as a large Mid Sized sedan for Nth America? Edited April 17, 2018 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 If this article is accurate, it looks like Edge ands Nautilus will soon part ways. It describes the CD6 architecture as “unibody rear wheel drive car”. Hopefully we will get several cars from that platform and not just crossovers. It also mentions a new truck/SUV architecture. Wonder if the next F150 (2021?) will be on the new platform. Or will Ranger merge with F150 and Super Duty projects? Consider the difference in Frames F150 Vs SD, could we see a lighter, narrower frame included below F150 for the Ranger Could Ranger's cabs stay steel but get aluminum bolt on panels, could Ranger share more of F150's power trains and electrical/HVAC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Ranger, F150 and SD will share the same architecture just in different sizes like they’re doing for the unibody cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Ranger, F150 and SD will share the same architecture just in different sizes like theyre doing for the unibody cars. Add Bronco and Everest to that list too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 So when will the Bronco Launch? I'm looking at getting a new car Spring of 2021... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 So when will the Bronco Launch? I'm looking at getting a new car Spring of 2021... Theyre keeping it really hush hush, probably because its still a ways out so Its still a guess at this point. All theyre saying is 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Theyre keeping it really hush hush, probably because its still a ways out so Its still a guess at this point. All theyre saying is 2020. Which brings up CY or MY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Which brings up CY or MY CY 2020 as a 2021 model 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) CY 2020 as a 2021 model The delay is because it will be on next gen architecture and comes with EB V6 that folks were hoping to see in Ranger...NG Ranger is next calendar year. after that. Edited April 17, 2018 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 CY 2020 as a 2021 model Dang, I wanted at least a year for it be in production to iron out whatever bugs it has... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 "Large mid size"? If there's no more full size cars for sale, won't all middle size cars become "large",? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 not if they stay under EPA capacity limits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) Auto Week has a story about the new architecture, and in their words "it has no snappy name, yet". So it's not called "C2" officially. It's like MQB at VW. "Scalable", so won't just be 'C' size products. Some will complain about Edge or larger cars using "Focus" design, but it's not 18 years ago. Edited April 17, 2018 by 630land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Auto Week has a story about the new architecture, and in their words "it has no snappy name, yet". So it's not called "C2" officially. It's like MQB at VW. "Scalable", so won't just be 'C' size products. its alrea been suspected that this will serve as the new platform for the new Fusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I've been one of those thinking C2+ Fusion for a long time Auto Week has a story about the new architecture, and in their words "it has no snappy name, yet". So it's not called "C2" officially.... "C2" is not snappy :-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelyD Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Well that confirms this is also the architecture for NG Edge...and presumably Fusion if they keep that. This is the first time I've heard this platform referred to as a flexible platform like MQB, they didn't connect those dots previously. I'm always very dubious about a vehicle architecture engineered for cost being scaled as far as up as Edge which will cost 3X as much as its cheapest platform mate. But, we'll see what happens. What makes it like MQB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 What makes it like MQB? Did you read the article in the first post that this whole thread is based on? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 It's like MQB at VW. "Scalable", so won't just be 'C' size products. Yes sir. Toyota is using a similar approach with TNGA and Honda with its New Global Platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Auto Week has a story about the new architecture, and in their words "it has no snappy name, yet". So it's not called "C2" officially. Reading through Ford Europe's media release from their media pages (not outside source pages) the all new C2 platform phrase is mentioned a few times. Whether that is considered official or not appears to be ones own deduction. :-) https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/feu/en/news/2018/04/10/ford-unveils-all-new-focus--most-innovative--dynamic-and-excitin.html 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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