akirby Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 5.0 Hybrid would be great. Just let the electric engines drive the front wheels! That’s what some of us have been speculating for a couple of years now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKX1960 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Why does she have to have it fully charged? If 20-30 minutes gets you 300 miles, 5 minutes would likely get you 75 or more. That's enough to find someplace less lonely, no? Depends how far a charging station would be from the destination. That seems to be one of the biggest problems. I've never actually seen one anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Depends how far a charging station would be from the destination. That seems to be one of the biggest problems. I've never actually seen one anywhere. I agree that that is a major issue. I'm going under the assumption that charging stations are widespread. You won't see widespread adoption of EV's until you have charging stations spaced well across the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) Just a general comment, the 300 mile range EV manufacturers are throwing around only happens in warm, southern California weather. If you live in an area that experiences winter, your range will be much less. I got into an email conversation with Detroit News auto writer, Henry Payne, about EV range. His real-world experience is that batteries can lose up to 50% of their capacity in cold weather. So that 300 mile range becomes 150 miles when it’s 20 degrees out. For me (we saw -25F at our place in northern Michigan this winter), this is unacceptable. /yet, my head is coming up with a bunch of yeahBUTs... like IF the car starts from a heated garage? (...To a heated garage?) IF it's much more likely to make long[er] trips in warmer weather? How soon recharge facilities will proliferate (ex: in Sault Ste. Marie &or Traverse City) etc... ...just sayin' & YMMV Edited April 19, 2018 by 2b2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKX1960 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Not often. We live in a rural area in northern lower Michigan. The nearest "big town" (Traverse City) is a 120 mile round trip. We spend a lot of time in Sault Ste. Marie (230 mile round trip). If we can't make it to Sault Ste. Marie and back on a single charge, there's no reason for me to buy an EV. Another thing that will be needed is roadside assistance being able to bring a charge as they now bring gas to a stranded driver. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 fuzzy...Teslas rule the world by doing things their own way will be their demise....not franchising for a stable infrastructure and servicing base?....brand specific charging stations ?.....fine when youre the only game in town....now the ice is thin...AND slowly melting Im told ( Global warming ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 /yet, my head is coming up with a bunch of yeahBUTs... like IF the car starts from a heated garage? (...To a heated garage?) IF it's much more likely to make long[er] trips in warmer weather? How soon recharge facilities will proliferate (ex: in Sault Ste. Marie &or Traverse City) etc... ...just sayin' & YMMV Valid points, but why buy an EV when we can just hop in the Focus and ride anywhere we want, in any type of weather? Getting 40+mpg too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 or there again,a really smart hybrid with a tiny 1.0 liter 1-3 diesel.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLPRacing Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Valid points, but why buy an EV when we can just hop in the Focus and ride anywhere we want, in any type of weather? Getting 40+mpg too? It's been years since I saw "Who Killed the Electric Car?", but one quote I always remembered was "What the detractors and the critics of electric cars have been saying for years, is true. The electric vehicle is not for everybody. Given the limited range, it can only meet the needs of ninety percent of the population." For me, it would be hard to make an electric car work because I travel for work. But my wife, son, daughter, Mom, mother-in-law, etc., they hardly ever drive more than 20 miles at a time, electric cars would work for them just fine. In a multi car household like mine, electric cars would be just fine, as long as we had one gasser. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 It's been years since I saw "Who Killed the Electric Car?", but one quote I always remembered was "What the detractors and the critics of electric cars have been saying for years, is true. The electric vehicle is not for everybody. Given the limited range, it can only meet the needs of ninety percent of the population." For me, it would be hard to make an electric car work because I travel for work. But my wife, son, daughter, Mom, mother-in-law, etc., they hardly ever drive more than 20 miles at a time, electric cars would work for them just fine. In a multi car household like mine, electric cars would be just fine, as long as we had one gasser. Agreed. An electric car would work well for my wife and her 30 mile commute to work. She could likely get 3-4 days on a charge. Since I got my truck, we usually take it on longer trips, so an EV would work well for us. We will likely look for a PIV (PHEV? whatever the acronym is) for her next vehicle as it will be the best of both worlds, and likely have a lower price than a pure EV. Couple that with our solar panels and it's a perfect combination. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Ive seriously considered a Fusion Energi recently but the all electric mode really freaks out my wife. For some reason the continuous application of power messes with her motion sickness. Didnt figure that one out until we took a ride in a Volt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 That's interesting fuzzy. My entire family gets motion sick, so I wonder how that would affect us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 My entire family gets motion sick, so I wonder how that would affect us. Sometimes at the most inconvenient times too........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Sometimes at the most inconvenient times too........ True dat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 That's interesting fuzzy. My entire family gets motion sick, so I wonder how that would affect us. She gets it really bad. Start/Stop has been known to trigger it, even when shes driving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSchicago Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 Baby V8 Ecoboost would be great for a Lightning successor too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSchicago Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) I was just looking for a Lightning Blue RCSB Sport, with 5.0, & locking rear. There are 3 in the country available. 2 are Lightning tributes, (GA & FL) and one is done like a lightning but with no Lightning emblems (PA). All 3 are lowered, side exhaust, wheels & Leather. Not a factory Blue one in the country! Edited April 23, 2018 by LSchicago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Baby V8 Ecoboost would be great for a Lightning successor too. Or a 5.2L supercharged coyote... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
351cid Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Agreed. An electric car would work well for my wife and her 30 mile commute to work. She could likely get 3-4 days on a charge. Since I got my truck, we usually take it on longer trips, so an EV would work well for us. We will likely look for a PIV (PHEV? whatever the acronym is) for her next vehicle as it will be the best of both worlds, and likely have a lower price than a pure EV. Couple that with our solar panels and it's a perfect combination. Until....life gets in the way and someone (you'll get the blame) forgets to plug it in. I think that will be a real kicker with plug ins until they get the "5 minute" recharge figured out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSchicago Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 Or a 5.2L supercharged coyote... Ideally yes! But I'd settle for less, as long as it's a V8, and has at least 450HP. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Until....life gets in the way and someone (you'll get the blame) forgets to plug it in. I think that will be a real kicker with plug ins until they get the "5 minute" recharge figured out. Oh yeah, I agree there. I'm sure the EV car phone apps (if they don't have this already) will remind you at night that your power is low and you need to charge it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Ideally yes! But I'd settle for less, as long as it's a V8, and has at least 450HP. . The Coyote isn't far from that in the F150 today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msm859 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I thought most PHEVs were around 20 mile range. I expect at least 30 from Aviator, maybe as much as 50. The problem with older PHEVs is most were built on a regular chassis and battery placement was difficult. With a platform engineered for hybrids this won't be an issue. I believe 50 km @31 miles, is what you need to be a serious contender for a PHEV. 50 miles is probably too much at this point. 30 is fine as long as it can have good acceleration and a top speed of 75mph electric only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanatWork Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I have to assume that Ford/Lincoln will end up with something similar to the circa 4.0TT V8 formula that is getting increasingly common across many makes. I'll always admit a lifelong love of Mustangs and other Fords with a "5.0" involved, but for eventual top-shelf Lincolns and other applications, I have to believe that there will be some "Ecobeast"-ish smaller V8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 The Coyote isn't far from that in the F150 today. It is that in the Mustang 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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