I think you’re reading way too much into
the capabilities of CE1 vs T6 BOF vehicles.
What I meant was that preferred vehicles in Europe / ROW tend to be smaller Thant those required for North America but agree there’s some overlap. Chinas priority will be Europe and ROW first off, still to be seen whether USA comes on board
And no, I doubt that CE1 is a shared platform with Europe, I think that boat has sailed for next five years or so.
Farley said these affordable Ford EVs would rival Chinese brands like BYD on the lower end, the stuff that sells in the 20s and 30s. The people who wrote the article were the ones who brought up the BYD truck that's 54k, not Farley as far as I can tell.
Thanks for clarification. Keep in mind Skunkworks program is led by ex-Tesla guy IIRC, so Tesla-like quest for efficiency would not be surprising. I’m not familiar with Aston Martin BEVs or what they may look like if you’re referring to future models.
Mercedes EQS does not look great but it’s not bad either. It does look quite aerodynamic, and I’ve seen Cd numbers that are pretty low. However, the EQS is not particularly efficient due to its large size and heavy weight/mass. Obviously for a luxury car that happens to be quite expensive, few prospective buyers probably care all that much if it needs additional battery capacity. Comparing Tesla Model 3 and Mercedes EQS specs show that size really affects energy efficiency. Tesla Model 3 driving range is slightly longer than EQS even though its battery is much smaller. Size and weight do make a big difference, which is why I hope Skunkwork vehicles are relatively small.
I feel like peak Korean design was when they mastered ripping off the Europeans, like around 2015-2020. Once they started trying to do their own thing again, their designs have started to go back downhill. Does anyone else agree with this sentiment?
Nah, this is gonna be a real spicy take. This is a worse design than the cybertruck. The cybertruck is ugly, but at least it's very creative and distinct. This is uglier than the cybertruck, and also very generic looking.
This is genuinely the worst looking truck I've ever seen. I literally said WTF after seeing it. I saw that front pic earlier today and thought it was a good awful fan rendering. It thought, there's no way the front looks like that...
By mushy potato, I'm thinking of things like that Mercedes EQS sedan or whatever it's called. That sort of shape where in pursuit of areo targets, designers create this lumpy blob on wheels. There's nothing wrong with sleek design if it's the Aston Martin approach, and not the devoid of all interesting design cues Tesla approach.
For an ICEV it doesn’t make much difference on overall costs, but I think when it comes to BEVs, “mushy potato” offers real-world advantages over “cardbox box”. Can’t you figure out how to make an aero potato look good? 😊
P.S. — Assume by mushy potato you mean sleek or streamlined, opposite of box or brick. If not, ignore above comment.
Could you elaborate? I assume ROW won’t be purchasing large BEVs as in NA, but do you not think whatever Ford comes up with out of Skunkworks effort won’t be used in both US and ROW? Would seem Ranger-size and -capability PU could meet dual needs and therefore reduce development costs versus designing a different PU for ROW. Just curious on your expectations on US vs ROW.
Look at the internal dimensions of Maverick versus Ranger crew cab
and you’ll quickly see why Ford is keen to promote its future BEVs as mid-sized.
Is that a sleight of hand or a clever Taurus like moment approaching?
and clearly, the US vs ROW future BEV sales mix and brands are going to be
very different