lol we’ve been hearing that since they came to MAP 

I had the thermostat housing replaced a year ago.  My guy was honest enough to tell me the t stat sensor was bad and covered under his warranty.  All is well.  

How do you know the absence of class 8 didn't hurt lower class sales and that the possible end of class 6 & 7 wouldn't cause further lower class sales? I keep saying but nobody listens - well almost -- that when they dropped class 8 in 1996/1997, DOT's and municipal public works agencies stopped buying as many Class 1 thru 7 Fords as they used to. GM and Dodges began to appear in class 1 thru 5 and Freightliners and Internationals/Navistars took over class 6 & 7. How hard is it to place two rails down the sides with 5 or 6 crossmembers, raise the cab, increase tire size and beef up suspension components and call it macaroni as in class 8? Remember what Ford did with the H-series cabover? They took the C-series cab, elevated it, threw some fender skirts on it and now it was a monster! Not the same scenario, but you get the picture. It's not rocket science to go from class 7 to 8. And like Bob R. has said many times, they don't need to go into OTR sleepers, just vocational. I asked the owner of a tree company who removed a tree from my yard after a storm a couple years ago why he had all Fords from class 1 thru 7. He said brand, dealer and parts familiarity were the main drivers. And by the way, states are repaving roads that don't need to be repaved. They go by age (objective) instead of looking and driving on the road (subjective). Just because a road or highway has some squiggly liquid asphalt filler, doesn't mean it needs to be repaved! And that cap and seal method of paving where there's a lip between lanes that starts forming ruts after the last roller has passed over! Water collects against these lips. Who came up with that method, the paving companies? It's costly and wasteful!

They did t promise anything, they estimated.  Then post Covid inflation and other factors significantly raised their material costs.  Did they take advantage of market conditions to raise prices even further?  Probably.  Who wouldn’t in that situation?  Doesn’t change the current market or Ford’s market share.

Correct, the zero emission zones in euro cities means that PHEVs have to run in charge sustain or worse, try to recharge on the run so they can operate in electric mode within the zero emission zones.   All of that tied with infrequent home charging means much higher emission than the official figures.

Now you’re just trolling because you can’t be that thick headed.  This is a temporary situation caused by the aluminum shortage which should be resolved in 6 months or so.  They don’t know the exact timing because they don’t know exactly when supplies will return to normal nor do they know what the inventory situation will be when that happens so they don’t know which vehicles will get priority.  REVC will restart Lightning production at some point in the near future.  Reading anything else into those statements is ridiculous.

Originally I said it the same data from the early 2020s, I was only half right as you pointed out  a second study released in 2023, still in the early 2020s. Now, two years later, they are still going on about a study done in Europe two years ago.

I was wrong.  The number is closer to 3,400.  Again, from the Detroit News:   More than 3,400 General Motors Co. workers who made electric vehicles and batteries will be laid off as the company rapidly adjusts to new policy under President Donald Trump and sluggish interest among U.S. buyers. Employees at the automaker's Detroit-area all-electric assembly plant will be hit the hardest, with 1,200 jobs cut as the company downsizes to a single shift in response to the slowing U.S. electric vehicle market. The company also will cut 550 jobs at its joint-venture Ultium Cells battery cell plant in Ohio, with another 850 slated for temporary layoff. The Ultium Cells Tennessee plant will temporarily lay off 700 workers. Nearly 120 others at plants that make other EV parts face temporary layoffs.

Is it? I mean, they promised a 40k price tag, and 3 months later, removed the 40k variant and increased the vehicle's price every few months. 

This could be huge move if followed by other manufacturers due to much lower BEV demand after tax credits ended.  As I mentioned in Lightning thread, October sales should tell us a lot more.  We need more context.