Honda and Nissan already had an agreement that fell apart about a year ago.

Wouldn't an "EV Mustang sedan" be essentially the next gen Mustang Mach E in everything but name only? Yes the form factor would go from CUV to sedan, but it doesn't seem such a stretch to consider the vehicle in these terms.

With BEVs, the charging infrastructure just needs to improve. Right now the experience varies depending on what area you live in. Maverick looks like a good option, though not as affordable as it used to be. Car owners and CUV owners seem to love it.

Ford 2025 total net profit (post-tax): -$8.2B (loss) Toyota 2025 total net profit (post-tax): $31.2B (gained)

Either way, that won’t be happening until 2029….. Well, Ford says that but if E Transit sales absolutely  crater, it could be gone sooner… E Transit sales collapsed in 2025 to 5,186 that’s down 58.9% from 2024 sales of 12,610… the bell ringer for me was Q4 sales, 582.

Daihatsu and Hino are Toyota brands, and they make around 800,000 Tacoma/HiLux pickups a year and several vans that Ford has no competitor for. Traton is VW Group's truck builders and they build hundreds of thousands of vans, including the Transit Connect for Ford. Hino builds a full line of real trucks that eclipse Ford's limited offerings as does MAN's and VW's own truck brands. And Scania is the world's best truck, revered by even diehard Mack fans. 

Better yet, make it AWD with the ability to disconnect the front wheel drive train for when you want the fun of a rear wheel drive car.

I didn't intend my post to become a hot topic of discussion but here we are 😀   In regard to the topic, I am getting my CVT serviced (drain and fill) tomorrow. It's kind of criminal that the dealership is charging 399 for a drain and fill. I only have Subaru dealers service the CVT. Other than normal maintenance and replacing wear items, that is all I am going to spend on it. The moment that CVT grenades itself, I will buy a new vehicle. Whether that is 5 weeks from now or 5 years, who knows.    I spent a lot of time looking over the past few days. From the Ford camp, the Maverick, Ranger and Bronco all seem like viable options.  None of them are perfect but I feel they will last long enough and there are some deals to be had. Other contenders are the Land Cruiser (pricier and 0 deals to be had) and VW Atlas (mostly unsure of that one but good value).  If I go used which is an option, all signs point to an RX 350 of the 2022 vintage. I don't particularly like that vehicle but it's rock solid and comfortable but kind of ugly.   I have no qualms with electric vehicles and I could see owning one eventually, but charging time, infrastructure (or lack there of), and high initial cost are too prohibitive right now. I am a car guy through and through but even I know they are the future unless something better comes around.  It's like everything else that has gone digital, you lose some of the experience but overall they are mostly better (my opinion).   In regard to Ford, they have made some missteps. My thoughts are they went into electrics head first because they were getting roasted by Wall Street/shareholders as not being as innovative as Tesla and some other electric starts up (which most have gone bankrupt/vaporware). They took a gamble so the talking heads on CNBC would stop calling them a dinosaur. The problem is that most of the US was NOT ready for electric vehicles. Most here were saying Ford needed to leverage hybrids and then ease into electrics. Well Ford only has two hybrids in the US for consumers,  Maverick and F150. I guess 3 if you count the Chinese made Lincoln Nautilus hybrid. Regardless, they are at pretty large pivot point.  I hope they learned a lot from all of their past tries. Only time will tell.   My overall view of the automotive industry in the US is actually pretty bleak. Fearing that we'll all be driving disposable vehicles from China in 10 years and what we knew of the Big 3 will be nothing but a memory. But what do I know, I am just an aging motor head in fintech.

Do they make pickups and vans?

Europe was never very profitable Europe 2015 profit    $131M 1.8% margin   Stop quoting revenue and sales volume without profit and profit margins.