This is where I go with it too. This could just be connecting dots that don't connect. In that they don't see a benefit to restarting it with a T3 version (relatively) around the corner. They might be able to coast on existing inventory for a while.
This is an example of the kind of sporty EV crossover I'd like to see the escape become. A radical departure from the blob it currently is, into a sleek, stylish, eye catching offering. The hood would probably need to be shorter than this Chinese ev to improve interior space, but you get the idea.
You could offer the bronco sport, including a hybrid model, with a off-road, rugged reputation and boxy styling. Then you could also offer an affordable EV crossover with softer, sleeker styling. Two highly differentiated products to cast a wide net.
As for edge and escape, I believe killing those is a mistake. I've said for years there's a way to reimagine offerings in these segments that would make them more aspirational, and profitable, and how Ford should go that route instead of just walking away.
Like for a new edge, maybe giving it a boxier, more rugged look. I really like how the current nautilus looks from the side, and the overall proportions. I'd love to see Ford try to find plant capacity in N. America to build the edge here, keep the side metal stampings from the nautilus to save money, and because it looks really nice, and just redesign the front and rear clips with Ford special styling, maybe taking inspiration from the explorer or Mach-e to give it a slightly sportier, more assertive appearance.
As for escape, this is where we differ. I know you want an escape with explorer like styling. Personally, considering how successful the mach-e has been, as one of the best selling non Tesla EVs in the states, I'd like to see that sort of sleek, sporty EV crossover, but riding on CE1 as a smaller, and more affordable vehicle than the mach-e.
I get where you're coming from. The vw partnership, although most of us on this forum don't seem to love the explorer or Capri as cars themselves, it seems like that partnership overall has been profitable and successful from people in the know. The Rivian partnership was a disappointment, unless I'm mistaken, nothing even came out of that.
Canceling the Rivian based flagship Lincoln crossover was a mistake. It sounds like it was really promising and the kind of halo product that would have elevated the brand.
The 3 rows were definitely a mistake as well. In the interest of full transparency, those were always the kinds of products where I want to get behind it, but the more details we got, it just made no sense. Like hearing how radical and ugly the styling was thinking "Oh maybe that'll let them use a much smaller battery that results in a pretty affordable large EV. Then we got the info the starting price would have been about 60 grand and that just killed any appeal it had.
I’m not doubting or disputing the validity of the quotes from the article (there are examples of statements or “quotes” from Ford to the media almost every single day). I will, however, doubt and dispute Ford’s ability to deliver on what they have stated on this subject.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a65637114/ford-delays-next-gen-electric-truck-van/
So reading in between the lines on this-they will be starting production in roughly 24 months but full production won't hill till 2028 CY.
But of course this is all subject to change....and try to think long term here-they might get a reprieve till 2029, but that could all change again then with a new administration.
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I don't think we need to revise history. There is far too much revisionist history right now, board said starting at 40K. Full stop. I wish we would stop filling in the blanks with opinions instead of facts. No one here knows the profitability of any Ford product, why do we try the hard to figure out profitability, instead of why the company isn't producing fresh and innovative product.
T3 production starting in 2027 is possible but highly unlikely considering Ford’s other near term investments/projects (not to mention EPA regulations being reconsidered and CAFE fines being eliminated). We shall see what the market and regulations dictate.