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There have been no major issues with the 2.3EB. Not in the Stang, not in the Ranger, not in the MKC/Corsair, not in the Focus RS. Mechanic is just lazy not doing his research...

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Tesla is a world-class software company with the management having world-class software minds who have pushed Tesla to the bleeding edge of technology and are always pushing the envelope whenever they can to reinvent themselves. Legacy carmakers have over 60-100 years of legacy to preserve and do not have the foundation, the infrastructure or the values to disrupt itself. Over the past decade, legacy automakers have shifted most of their software and electronics expertise to suppliers and have chosen to focus on higher-margin areas like engines, chassis, suspension and assembly, promotion and distribution and consciously decided to outsource the more complicated parts of the car and in turn, have lost control over the software and today different parts of the cars are controlled by different software from different suppliers and are not compatible with each othe they cannot talk to each other and that is a large problem -- ask Toyota about sudden acceleration). Tesla has its own AI chip, its own ECU, and everything talks to each other even by Bluetooth. What Ford has is a cost optimization business model in which they build the big parts themselves and pour billions into marketing and distribute the final product through their franchise network. This is the current business model for legacy automakers. This model only works if there is scale to bring down costs and no outstanding competitor takes too much of the market. As long as this exists, the competition is kinda equal and allows the automakers to follow the same business model. A recent example is the mobile phone market prior to the introduction of the iPhone. All of the phones were just mediocre and all the companies like Nokia, Motorola, Blackberry, could survive in a mediocre market. However, when an outstanding, far superior product was introduced it disrupted the market and the market went haywire. Same story in the auto market. As long as there is no Apple to disrupt the market, the legacy automakers are content with their market share, eeking out profits and running a cost-optimized manufacturing operation. Why change if it takes billions of dollars just to enter the market and since the legacy carmakers already have economies of scale why do anything except incremental change. After all the competition is in the same spot and adding new tech costs $$ and if no one else is doing it why should I especially if it affects my bottom line? Instead, I will look to see how I can pinch a few pennies here and there and add $$ to my bottom line. Enter the iPhone, I mean Tesla and after a few years of denial, the market is going haywire.

I have never owned a Toyota but I have considered one for the future because we have a need for something with some off road prowess. Hitting up the appropriate forums led me to believe that they are not the same Toyota quality as the previous decade. I agree with you 100% about the 4Runner and would consider the Land Cruiser but it has the same issue. I’m waiting on the Bronco and if that doesn’t tickle my fancy I’ll be putting some raptor wheels on my ‘18 Navigator and enjoy the heated seat massage as I drive to my campsite.

Call me when Tesla is as profitable as Toyota and VW and is building millions of vehicles per year.

I like using the shifter to rest my hand on. It's more comfortable to me, especially since I have some nerve issues in my right shoulder. A water bottle kinda works as a substitute but it's not quite the same.

Hi....Waiting patently for my new Nautilus. Thank you all for the great information on this site.

The reason: "...Automakers worry that computers like Tesla's will render obsolete the parts supply chains they have cultivated over decades...Such systems will drastically cut the number of electronic control units, or ECUs, in cars. For suppliers that depend on these components, and their employees, this is a matter of life and death." https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Automobiles/Tesla-teardown-finds-electronics-6-years-ahead-of-Toyota-and-VW2

I have about 4,000 miles on my 2020 Platinum, no problems, it was missing the rear air deflector and towing eye, my local dealer has taken care of those items.

Ford interiors are far from pathetic.

By the time Ford sells its 50,000th Ford Mustang Mach E by the end of 2021, Tesla probably will have completed at least two new Gigafactories – Gigafactory Berlin and Gigafactory Texas, each capable of producing 500,0000 EVs per year. I am wondering if the 2021 Tesla release of the Cybertruck will be before or after Ford sells its 50,000th Mustang Mach E?

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Damn, that's funny,,,,,,,, Hahaha, HRG

Dude, seriously. Go troll the GM forum and tell them how much the Bolt/Volt sucks...

Fix the cigarette lighter....

BL Nautilus Chalet Theme, every time i open my door i say WOW! Your going to love it. Congrats!

Sales volume is tricky. You can increase sales by lowering prices/increasing rebates but that may not increase profit so what good does that do? Especially if you have to expand manufacturing? If you have to build a factory to get an additional 100k sales then you’re losing money.

It's way more than just upgraded shocks. There's additional body braces, beefier suspension components, armor plating in the doors, plus more that my coffee deprived brain is struggling to think of right now.

We’ve had beige or light grey interiors in at least 10 vehicles and never had a problem with stains of any kind, and never had denim transfer.

Looks great! You won’t regret the light color interior, I have 2 in car seats and mine still looks new...just stay on top of it. You’re gonna love this vehicle!

I want them to target 1-million. Is that an arbitrary number? Perhaps, but it sounds damn cool and if the market is expanding, why not get in on the action and pump up those sales! That would be fantastic! Hopefully Hackett and Farley will put the pedal to the metal on this, I would love to see them get aggressive here.

One of the biggest advantages that Tesla has with the “competition” is that the legacy car companies really don’t want to manufacture EVs. They have demonstrated this last year with the introduction of so many “Tesla Killers” that failed because of the cost, performance, battery range, or lack of significant quantities to be a real threat or even just a competition for Tesla. Some of the EVs proposed by the legacy car companies are very good vehicles but they will never threaten Tesla’s dominance if the car companies only produce – for example, 50,000 Ford Mustang Mach E by the end of 2021! By the end of 2021, Tesla probably will have completed at least two new Gigafactories – Gigafactory Berlin and Gigafactory Texas, each capable of producing 500,0000 EVs per year. The global unit sales market for EVs in 2030 is at least 20 million vehicles per year. 50,000 Ford Mustang Mach E or Chevy Bolts, or Audi eTrons, or Porsche Taycans - even they are much better than Tesla’s Evs, will have no significant impact on Tesla’s current and future dominance in this market. It would be suicide for any of the legacy car companies (except perhaps VW, because of their “diesel-gate” scandal, their stock has been pummeled and their remaining shareholders know they need to be patient during this rebuilding phase) to manufacture truly competitive EVs on a mass-market scale that would provide real competition for Tesla. If they did, it would hasten their own demise because they have billions of dollars invested in the manufacturing of their profitable ICE cars that would soon become obsolete if EVs became prevalent. Because EVs are practically maintenance-free - with only 20 moving parts compared to 2,000 moving parts for an ICE vehicle, the auto industry will lose even more money due to the loss of the revenue stream they currently receive for parts, service, and maintenance of their ICE vehicles - especially after the warranty period ends (typically 4 years). Today, 70% - 80% of these automakers' fleet of ICE cars on the road are out of warranty, so the car companies and their dealership networks currently enjoy huge after-the-sale revenue streams and profits. The fact that the legacy auto companies can’t build a profit-making EVs because they currently outsource almost everything except for perhaps the engine, the chassis, and the assembly; and the fact that there won’t be the same after-the-sale revenue stream for parts and maintenance – combined with write-offs of their existing ICE car manufacturing equipment while at the same time incurring huge investment costs required to retool and scale-up the production to produce mass-market volumes of EVs in order to be competitive or perhaps break-even, would be a one-two knock-out punch for the $4 trillion dollar auto industry. No matter how many Super Bowl ads they produce touting their EVs, they want to stall, delay, or postpone the adoption of EVs for as long as possible. Legacy automakers' survival depends on a very slow transition from ICE cars to EVs. This Ain't No Party, This Ain't No Disco, This Ain't No Fooling Around

F the Mach E, but for the sake of discussion... if you truly believe the future is utilities and the Mustang is a dead car walking (Driving?) Then it makes sense to soften this transition with the E... get people used to it, and then in 10 years when you kill the real Mustang... you drop Mach E from the Big mustang and it takes over and continues the name.

Plenty of people, you live under a rock? Who currently offers the largest screen in a pickup? Who surpassed Chevy for #2?

Same bunch who want the "dial" and all the toys.....its no wonder kia has come on as strong as it has

Good choice! Similar first car for me, ‘85 Mustang coupe, 2.3 manual. Had 44k miles on it when I bought it in ‘91. Great first car no doubt!

It is interesting to look back at this slow-motion train wreck. The legacy automakers never saw any of this coming, but probably now understand the basics of what’s happened. Tesla is six years ahead because, from the start, they followed a completely different business model than the legacy automotive industry. It’s bad enough to be 6 years behind in terms of technology but much worse to be even further behind with your entire company structure and culture. Going forward, transforming a system will be far more difficult since legacy automakers will be forced to sacrifice jobs and old knowledge on which thousands of their employees are still working on. This disruptive innovation is going to cause some major casualties in the coming years and the legacy automakers are destined to fail unless they reinvent their corporate culture and mission focus. Disruptive innovation is what Musk is all about. Just wait to see what the Starlink will do to the cable/internet business. Starlink will most likely be more valuable than all of Tesla combined.

Even one small part of Elon's vision shows how different he is... Elon Musk has said adamantly he does not want service to be a profit-motivated part of the business and that concept is unthinkable in the ICE auto business. The competition doesn't just have to come up vehicles that can compete, they have to change the very way they think and they have to change who they are. Can Fortune 200 companies with thousands and thousands of employees do and decades and decades of experience playing a different game really do that? The expanded view looks like a game of three-dimensional chess, where one player is playing in a single dimension and, the other is thinking 10 moves ahead and playing in three dimensions. The single dimension player is unable to know they are doomed because they only know how to play the game they are playing. The fallout from this disruptive innovation, as stated in the article, is a possible tsunami of unemployment.

I think most Ford products got rid of carbs in 1984-85 time period...maybe trucks had them, but passenger cars pretty much had EFI or PFI

I missed that

If you apply the brake very lightly it won't activate as well. Still a non-issue. Just drive it and enjoy the fuel savings and *quiet* while stopped.

In 10 years what will not exist will be the current RWD ICE V8 powered Mustang in a low ride coupe form...

Hey Dean, Andre on TFL just said the 3.0 Powerstroke was just emissions certified for 2020. That may be why your orders are late.

leathers always been reserved for the Lariats and up....don't see any reason for that to change..

Nalley Ford Service in Sandy Springs called Tuesday at 3 to tell me they had gotten the part in and the repair was complete. I picked the car up Tuesday before close. So they were done even before the estimated 2 days to get the part. I asked if they had been getting many of these warranty repairs they said no - stating their rule of thumb is once a certain type of repair starts popping up they will stock the part. Anyway a far far better experience at Nally than at Hennessey Ford in Chamblee - and while i'm hoping i don't have to get into the car market soon, Nalley will be the first place i go and where I go for future warranty repairs.