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It will probably slow production down in many different markets yeah, but not too bad. I'm happy to see people standing up against this covid mandate crap. Canadians are a lot more strict on their mandates than we are here in the southern US. I'm just so ready for this covid crap to go away!

I got my schedule email! I totally didn't think it would happen seeing as there are a ton of users who haven't gotten anything! Build week of 3/28!

Good news, just check my email and at 3:43 this message came through. My truck has been built this week, should arrive next week.

I received the coveted "shipped" email from Ford this morning. Since it takes a few weeks to get vehicle delivery from Kentucky to New Mexico, I'll go ahead and provide my timeline. Vehicle: F250, 6.7, Lariat Value Package Baja, CCSB, Stone Gray. Additional options: FX4, extended running boards, rapid heat supplemental heater, block heater, camper pkg, UTT, rain sensing wipers, upfitters. Initial order also had bedliner, 5th wheel prep, and gooseneck hitch. 11/01/21: Initial order. 11/12/21: Ford email confirming order. 12/03/21: Revised order to drop bedliner, 5th wheel prep, and gooseneck. Arranged for dealer to install after delivery. 12/09/21: Ford email scheduling build for week of January 31, 2022. 01/25/22: Cyberdman provided Scheduled to Day of 02/02/22. 01/26/22: Window sticker became available. 02/05/22: Ford email built notification. 02/10/22: Ford email shipped notification. Estimated delivery is March 2 - March 8.

Shipped! Got email this morning.

Same here. Truck is supposed to be built this week. Dealer said it was being built last week. I am worse than my kids around Christmas time. This is nuts! Lol

Man I gotta great huge surprise today. I ordered my F 350 6.7 Tremor Ultimate Lariat pkg, on Jan 10 and today exactly one month later received a production date of March 28th and my VIN. The Ford online tracker is pretty cool. It’s been a really great day. I have to say so far my dealership has taken excellent care of me. ????

I am never getting this email. Congrats

sequoia is my guess

Gradually warming folks up to MY23 prices... -SR-

While no specific mention of the 7.3L in the article, I just read this: "... This blockade is also causing problems for Ford engine production, as its Windsor-based facilities are idle today, though Unifor Local 200 President John D’Agnolo told Automotive News that the plants will be back up on Thursday. ..." here: https://fordauthority.com/2022/02/ford-engine-production-impacted-by-ambassador-bridge-blockade/

The 7.3L gasser is manufactured in Windsor, Ontario so there is certainly the possibility for some disruptions there the longer this goes on. May already be affected, IDK. Freedom is not without its costs.

What will dictate the future of EV's will be market forces...if it is viable, it will sell.

Bottom line the customer is going to buy what they want. At the end of the day no politician or company is going to dictate what folks are going to drive. If they do, they will pay in the marketplace and at the ballot box. EVs are being pushed by the Greenies and a bunch of clueless politicians who care neither about the environment nor know the workings of the auto industry. EVs will have a place, mind you, as locally dispatched commercial/delivery vehicles and daily drivers all of which can be charged in one's garage or place of business. The brick wall that these "all electric" dreams will hit is not enough charging stations and not enough electricity to power them.

That seems to be the Ford strategy going forward. About 60% hybrids/plugins, and maybe 40% BEVs by 2030 or so. And then take it from there as the feedback/sales numbers come in. Toyota is certainly using that strategy. Foolish IMO to go head first into only BEVs like GM.

A lot of that is proprietary but it’s common knowledge that after the body is assembled it’s dipped in anti corrosion liquid then painted by robots. I think it’s heat dried but not 100% sure. The extra cost paints are usually a 3 step process with an extra mid coat but it’s also possible some paint formulas are just more expensive.

Ford Dealers can submit vehicle orders via either the traditional CONCEPS ordering system or the newer WBDO (Web Based Dealer Ordering) system. Fleet orders and/or specification changes must be made via CONCEPS. The WBDO system only accepts stock (Dealer Stock, Demonstrator) orders and all variations of retail orders (Retail, A/X/D Plan, Etc.). Both ordering systems generate error notices and will not display pricing information until any errors are corrected. The CONCEPS ordering system requires the Dealer to manually enter all the order codes… Year, Body Code, Priority Code, Option Codes, etc. The newer WBDO system uses plain language descriptions, etc. and only displays options available for that vehicle’s Model Year, Body Code & Order Code. Retail orders using the WBDO system default to Priority Code “19”. Dealers assign priority codes to each order based on the Order Type. Stock orders are assigned priority codes 20-80, retail orders are assigned priority codes 10-19. Fleet orders are assigned special alpha numeric codes that represent a requested production week. The priority codes determine the order for which vehicle orders are to be selected and/or considered for scheduling. This overview doesn’t consider commodity issues (model, powertrain or option scheduling restrictions) that may be in place for a scheduling week. Commodity issues and/or restrictions can apply at either or both the regional and national levels. The highest priority that a Dealer can use for a retail order is 10. An order with a “10” priority code will schedule ahead of an order with an “11” priority code, etc. This allows Dealers to prioritize the order in which vehicles are scheduled, especially when a Dealer may have multiple retail orders in the USOB (Unscheduled Order Bank). With the WBDO ordering system, retail orders default to priority code “19” so it’s important that a Dealer change the priority code to a lower number if they want the order to be considered for scheduling earlier compared to other orders. Ford provides Dealers with a schedule for vehicle allocation each week on Monday mornings which shows how many vehicles of each model line that the Dealer has allocation for scheduling that week. That same weekly allocation report also includes information on any regional commodity issues or restrictions. On Monday afternoons, the Scheduling Toolbox Report is released which provides more detailed information on commodity issues and scheduling availability on a national basis. On Tuesday mornings, the AM Scheduling Preview Report is available to show Dealers which vehicle orders have been selected or previewed, on an initial basis, to be selected for scheduling that week. The same report is updated and available on Wednesday morning to show any changes based on commodity issues that may have changed. On Wednesday afternoon, the Regional Scheduler issues a notice informing Dealers of the vehicle specifications available for scheduling for orders not already showing on the AM Preview Report. This provides Dealers with information on what vehicle specifications are available for scheduling should they have orders showing on the AM Preview Report that are not what the Dealer wants. Ford generates what are called “SIMS Orders” each week which are Ford’s suggested orders based on commodity information available at the time. If a Dealer has vehicle allocation for scheduling that week and has no Dealer orders in the USOB or orders that don’t meet the commodity restrictions in place for that week, the scheduling system will default to trying to schedule SIMS (Smart Inventory Management System) orders if they meet any commodity restrictions in place. The SIMS orders are available to Dealers online Monday mornings and in print form on Tuesday mornings. Dealers can enter their own vehicle orders or change the Ford generated SIMS orders. Ford Dealers earn vehicle scheduling allocation each month based on reported vehicle sales, current inventory, projected sales, etc. Each month, Dealers usually meet with their Ford Zone Manager to review the allocation offered for scheduling the following month. A Dealer can accept the suggested allocation per vehicle line or change their commitment. Should a Dealer want more allocation than offered for a vehicle line, they can submit a request for supplemental allocation which will be considered based on total allocation available and commitments from other Dealers in their Zone. There are times when Dealers accept less allocation than offered for a vehicle line which makes that allocation available to other Dealers that may be looking for additional inventory. At other times, a Dealer may want more allocation for a vehicle line than Ford has offered. A supplemental allocation request is how Dealers can get allocation for extra inventory. A Dealer needs allocation each week for scheduling for each vehicle line. Even without allocation for a vehicle line, Ford is pretty good at trying to schedule retail orders even when a Dealer doesn’t have allocation that week. When a Dealer knows that they don’t have scheduling allocation, it’s always a good idea for them to provide the retail order information (Body Code & Order Number) to their Ford Zone Manager and the Regional Scheduler. The Regional Scheduler can reprioritize the retail order to priority code “01” which basically forces the Ford scheduling system to schedule the unit ASAP unless extreme commodity restrictions prevent the scheduling. When a Dealer doesn’t have allocation, the Ford Zone Manager may try to get the allocation from another Dealer that is willing to give up their allocation. Ford scheduling is done on Thursday’s but at times scheduling may be carried over to Friday’s due to scheduling, commodity or other issues. Vehicle scheduling confirmations are available on Friday mornings for allocation scheduled on Thursday. With only a few exceptions (Focus RS, EcoSport, Transit Connect) VIN numbers are generated at the time that an order is “Submitted to Plant” for scheduling. The initial scheduling information will show an order scheduled for a production week. Afterwards, the information will be updated to show production for a particular date. Along the process, the vehicle order status information will be updated along with the ETA (Estimated Time of Arrival) at the dealership. Years ago, the ordering process was much easier, with few or limited commodity issues to deal with. Ford’s vehicle scheduling was mostly driven by scheduling and building vehicles based on Dealer orders to meet Market demands. For a number of years now, the ordering process has become more complex and time consuming based on the constantly changing commodity issues and restrictions. It is now not uncommon for allocation to roll over to the following week because manufacturing can’t accurately forecast how many vehicles can be scheduled for production. In many cases, it seems that either because of vendor supply issues or other factors that Ford skews vehicle scheduling to higher content models in order to maximize corporate profits rather than scheduling vehicle production to meet Dealers orders or Market demand. The overall vehicle order process, scheduling and status updates is listed below for reference. · Dealer places order into the USOB (Unscheduled Order Bank) · When Dealer has vehicle allocation for scheduling, orders are scheduled based on Order Type, Priority Code and commodity restrictions. o Scheduled vehicle orders display as “Submitted to Plant” on the Dealer’s daily schedule status report. o Vehicle orders are assigned a VIN number when scheduled except for certain vehicle lines (EcoSport, Focus RS, Transit Connect) o The initial vehicle scheduling notice will include information for the scheduled week of production. The initial ETA (Estimated Time of Arrival) is usually provided within a few days of the scheduling notice. o Dealers can change vehicle specifications for a scheduled vehicle up until the vehicle is “locked in” for production or about two weeks prior to the scheduled build date. Specifications for certain vehicle lines (EcoSport, Focus RS, etc.) cannot be changed once scheduled. § Dealers are limited to making 6 changes to scheduled orders. § Dealers cannot change Order Type, Body Code, Order Code (Package/Trim Level) · Vehicle order is next updated with a scheduled production date. · Vehicle goes into production and shows as “Sent to Plant” on the Dealer’s daily status report. o Vehicle invoices and window stickers are generated and available to Dealers at about this time. · Dealer’s daily status report shows updates on production status. · Vehicle status updated to “Produced” · Vehicle status updated to “Released” meaning that the vehicle has been released for shipment. · Vehicle is loaded on rail car. Dealer is provided with carrier information (Canadian National, Norfolk Sothern, etc.) along with the actual rail car number. · Vehicle status is updated to show arrival at the final rail destination (Ramp 41/Newark, NJ) · Vehicle is received by the car carrier (Fleet Car, Diversified Automotive, etc.) for delivery to the dealership. · Vehicle is delivered to the dealership. Dealers have access to the “Vehicle Visibility” application which provides status updates on a 24/7 basis for any vehicle order. This information is provided to answer the most often asked questions about the vehicle ordering process by the Ford enthusiasts that are members of the Blue Oval Forums. I’ll update this information as conditions warrant.

Changed out the roof top clearance lights from the original lights with clear lenses to ones with tinted lenses. Figured I would post some pics just in case anyone was wondering what is involved with changing them. Took 1 hour to swap. Plastic parts on new lights looks better quality than fords oem lights.....LED board on ford lights looks higher quality than the aftermarket ones. Bought 2 extra sets of aftermarket lights so I will always have matching lights for years to come as they fail/burn out. (Buy extra and have spares/backups to ensure that they never go bad......IF YOU DONT buy spares it is almost guaranteed one will go bad as soon as they change the design of the light and discontinue that model....???)

How is there only one competitor listed for large heavy duty pickup - I know there are only 3/4 in the segment, but why is only Chevy listed?

I feel like I should play the lottery now sheesh.

No email updates from Ford but checked the motorcraft website and my BCE's are showing up!!! Getting close I can feel it. Hopefully have my truck within a few weeks.

Thank you!

No change.

Thank you very much, I'll get back with you when production starts in 5-6 months

You can't ask until after 02/28.

And how do we bump our threads?

And how do we bump our threads here again?

New to site but long time Ford guy. My22 f350 DRW Carbonized Gray CC 8'BED went to production this week.

I think it makes a difference to know if the plants are running or not. Some of us have been waiting over 6 months just to get scheduled....and still no VIN. Hopefully they're scheduling this week and a few of us will get our VIN's.

RCD- I would suggest spending some time reading the 2022 Super Duty discussion Forum... all your answers and more can be found by reading the last handful of pages. 8-12 weeks to be delivered to the dealer is most likely impossible. You're already at 4 weeks since order (almost), scheduling this week for building 3/14 (others have already been scheduled for this week already) so odds are, you won't get built by then. Another 4 weeks out before build could even start and then time to build, ship, etc you're already past your 8-12 week window the dealer told you.

I got confirmation today from the dealer that the truck was delivered. Thanks for your help on the tracking.

Escape came out in 2019 for 2020 model year so it is due for mid cycle update in 2022 for 2023 model year. So we'll see if Farley can sprinkle some Bronco Sport and Maverick magic on it. All new EV Escape should be due in 2025... but who knows if Ford can pull off a normal 5~6 year model cycle the rest of the industry seems to have no issue sticking with.

Please go back and read the top 2 or 3 topics in the super duty forum.

LOL, or Trump's fault...

Ready for the end of the world

I get that and I don’t disagree but with published invoices you can calculate a dealer’s true cost pretty closely. If they never published invoice prices at all you wouldn’t have a clue whether that $50k vehicle cost the dealer $47000 or $37000. In fact the real culprit here are the companies who are publishing invoice prices whether it’s the dealers or places like Edmunds.. Ford doesn’t publish them for the public.

2022 Super Duty's are being scheduled tomorrow.

Hi TenTex. Just to avoid confusion: Invoice and Z-Plan/A-Plan price would be two different prices. Which price are you asking for? Do you have a Z-Plan PIN? If you do, it is easy to get an exact Plan price from a Dealership. I can't supply them (too general a question) since guesstimates are not generally accurate, but you should be aware they are two different prices. Good luck.

2021 F250 XLT CCSB 7.3 $433 a year in Iowa.

Thank you very much!

2019 F350 Crew Cab Long Bed Dually In New Mexico, $115 per year, two year option Extrapolating, it will be $460 for 4 years if nothing changes. NJ not that far out of line...

Your dealer should be taking care of arguing all of this :(. My PCO (though only $2K on a SuperDuty has similar language to the prior post. It also shows as a line item on the order confirmation from my dealer (in addition to X-Plan price, so it is not just some general discount off of MSRP or other mythical starting value; in fact, I did not mention it until we already nailed the X-Plan price), so there's no way Ford can back out of this one. Sure would love to find out how to get a $3500 version of it, though! Perhaps I need to go to the site and build a few more trucks, which may have triggered the current one. It was either that or general loyalty because it also contained $1250 for an Edge (though I'm done with Edge after the runaround we got from Ford on a '16 lemon). At any rate here's the disclaimer on my snail-mailed PCO:

Yep, That is why I say thanks for posting your information so we aren't completely in the dark.

One post and gone....see ya

It's quite possible Ford has decided to use GE2 for Escape and Corsair. They haven't said anything about MEB in North America since the initial Oakville EV announcement. Corsair and Escape are 2025 model year so engineering should be lock just about now. The EV landscape has changed pretty significantly since Hackett signed the deal with VW. Back in 2020, most people expect EV adoption to be slow and graduate so there was a lot more time to figure out your strategy. Leveraging MEB for smaller EV seems like a good bet for Ford so it doesn't need to sink a lot of money into something that VW was already far ahead. But only 2 years later, the EV adoption has not been slow and graduate. It is explosive and exponential. EV went from 2% to 12% of market in California, and from 1% to 17% in Germany (and 28% plug in with EV+PHEV). Now Ford fully expects EV to account for the majority of its sales by later this decade. So the impetus to bring these things back inhouse is probably very strong. Farley is far more focused on this than Hackett... he knows Ford has to control its own destiny on EV.

Technically 105 years but 100 under Ford I miss my 04 LS it was an absolute blast to drive. I would add the original Model K as a top 10 Lincoln to that list that Motortrend has they were impressive cars for their day and helped put Lincoln on the map. Here are some screen gabs I got from the commercial

I was just thinking that maybe GE1 being narrower and amortised may be more advantageous to North America for developing compact BEVs as the supplier network is already established at Cuautitlan.Oakville could become the majorGE2 plant while either MEB or GE1 in Mexico suits cost control. In any regard, the priority in North America is large and mid sized vehicles at the moment which reduces any urgency.

Seems like Ford's internal plan was something like this: B2+C2 ==> MEB CD4+CD6+GE1 ==> GE2 I'm not sure if that really has changed but I think the demand for EV in Europe has been really strong, much more than anyone expected, including Ford and VW. So there are probably a lot of internal debate about how far Ford should be entangled with MEB if EV starts to account for majority of sales, which is going to happen much sooner than Hackett (or anyone else in the industry) expected 4 years ago when VW first approached Ford about sharing MEB.

No! Sorry but your statements are totally incorrect and misleading to those like yourself that haven't bothered to read the available resources about the ordering, allocation and scheduling processes that have been in place for decades. I'm not going to go through all the details again for what seems like the thousandth time but submitting an order to the USOB (Unscheduled Order Bank) has nothing to do with allocation or scheduling which are all separate matters but related at stages in the scheduling process. A Dealer that would hold back on submitting an order actually hurts themselves and the customer as the date an order is received is a factor in scheduling under certain conditions. And there are times when Ford will schedule a retail order without allocation. Unscheduled orders are subject to commodity/options in place for a week that a Dealer has allocation but there are times when Ford will make an exception to commodity restrictions in order to schedule a customer's retail order. An order confirmation e-mail from Ford is no indication that allocation is available and has nothing to do with a Dealer's available scheduling allocation! Priority codes for retail orders are an important tool for Dealers to prioritize the order in which orders are scheduled as allocation becomes available. The WBDO (Web Based Dealer Ordering) system sets retail orders to the default "19" priority code but retail orders can use codes 10-19 with 10 being the most desirable, then 11, etc. In WBDO, a Dealer must manually change the "19" default priority code. When multiple orders have the same priority codes, the scheduling system treats all the orders the same and will schedule the order that most easily complies with the commodity restrictions in place for that week. The scheduling system is supposed to consider the oldest order first when there are multiple retail orders with the same priority code but a Dealer can't rely on the order date alone due to other factors involved in the process.

When a dealer gets allocation the order with the lowest priority gets built first (assuming it can be built). Retail (sold) orders are supposed to be 10-19 with 20+ for dealer stock. Orders with the same priority are usually scheduled by order date.