NickF1011 Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 I think the original version did. Eh, maybe. Then again, the Explorer overall was selling 300,000+ units a year at one point too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Eh, maybe. Then again, the Explorer overall was selling 300,000+ units a year at one point too. Exactly.....and I was just going on what I (think I) remember reading, so I may be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted October 13, 2009 Author Share Posted October 13, 2009 Ford is planning a sport trac on this Explorer but it hasnt gotten the official green light yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Exactly.....and I was just going on what I (think I) remember reading, so I may be wrong. 400,000 IIRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 400,000 IIRC I believe you are correct. My, how times have changed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExplorerDude Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I believe you are correct. My, how times have changed! Yes they have indeed, I believe I heard that Ford wants the 2011 Explorer to sell somewhere between 150,000 and 175,000 units. I think that's possible once the economy improves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Yes they have indeed, I believe I heard that Ford wants the 2011 Explorer to sell somewhere between 150,000 and 175,000 units. I think that's possible once the economy improves. I don't know how they are going to do with in addition to building Taurui and MKS's in the same plant. I think Chicago can only do like 300K units a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Yes they have indeed, I believe I heard that Ford wants the 2011 Explorer to sell somewhere between 150,000 and 175,000 units. I think that's possible once the economy improves. i doubt its that high. Ford doesnt even release projections anymore anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Ford is planning a sport trac on this Explorer but it hasnt gotten the official green light yet. Sport Trac would compete with a 4 door Ranger/F100. Assuming either Global Ranger or F100 ever happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris Kolman Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 (edited) Footprints: Explorer = 193 in x 84 in Tahoe = 202 in x 79 in Expedition = 206 in x 91 in While the difference doesn't seem like a lot a Tahoe will fit in my garage and an Expedition will not. It is particularly too wide... I already have trouble getting both cars in the garage. And where we live is prone to hail-storms... So putting the car outside isn't an option. You see my dilemma... And while I agree with a lot of you that the current Explorer situation isn't ideal, it doesn't cover up the fact that the Explorer fits a need in some circles. Just because we're driving around what some of you consider bland and boring doesn't mean we aren't car guys. That we blindly drive anything... Listening to the marketing BS vs. a close evaluation of our wants and determining the best car that fits those needs. Just because the Explorer isn’t politically correct doesn't make it a poor car (i.e. the POS comments). As I said if the next Explorer is as capable as the current great... But if not it won't be on my list. And my second choice was a GM not a Ford. Edited October 16, 2009 by Kris Kolman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Footprints: Explorer = 193 in x 84 in Tahoe = 202 in x 79 in Expedition = 206 in x 91 in While the difference doesn't seem like a lot a Tahoe will fit in my garage and an Expedition will not. It is particularly too wide... I already have trouble getting both cars in the garage. And where we live is prone to hail-storms... So putting the car outside isn't an option. You see my dilemma... And while I agree with a lot of you that the current Explorer situation isn't ideal, it doesn't cover up the fact that the Explorer fits a need in some circles. Just because we're driving around what some of you consider bland and boring doesn't mean we aren't car guys. That we blindly drive anything... Listening to the marketing BS vs. a close evaluation of our wants and determining the best car that fits those needs. Just because the Explorer isn’t politically correct doesn't make it a poor car (i.e. the POS comments). As I said if the next Explorer is as capable as the current great... But if not it won't be on my list. And my second choice was a GM not a Ford. dammit, now I have to back a tahoe trade in up to an Explorer...Tahoe is THAT narrow?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Footprints: Explorer = 193 in x 84 in Tahoe = 202 in x 79 in Expedition = 206 in x 91 in Where did you get your numbers? Tahoe is 79" wide. Expedition is 78.8" wide Explorer is 73.3" wide. A Raptor is ~87" and needs extra clearance lights on it for the width. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM2 Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 (edited) Where did you get your numbers? The Explorer and Expedition's overall width he posted includes the side mirrors. :lol: Edited October 16, 2009 by AM2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 The Explorer and Expedition's overall width he posted includes the side mirrors. :lol: so, he cheated to underline a point hmmmm. Expedition width FROM the Chevy site 78.8...a TAD longer though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 The Explorer and Expedition's overall width he posted includes the side mirrors. :lol: I was thinking the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Footprints: Explorer = 193 in x 84 in Tahoe = 202 in x 79 in Expedition = 206 in x 91 in While the difference doesn't seem like a lot a Tahoe will fit in my garage and an Expedition will not. It is particularly too wide... I already have trouble getting both cars in the garage. And where we live is prone to hail-storms... So putting the car outside isn't an option. You see my dilemma... And while I agree with a lot of you that the current Explorer situation isn't ideal, it doesn't cover up the fact that the Explorer fits a need in some circles. Just because we're driving around what some of you consider bland and boring doesn't mean we aren't car guys. That we blindly drive anything... Listening to the marketing BS vs. a close evaluation of our wants and determining the best car that fits those needs. Just because the Explorer isn’t politically correct doesn't make it a poor car (i.e. the POS comments). As I said if the next Explorer is as capable as the current great... But if not it won't be on my list. And my second choice was a GM not a Ford. It has nothing to do with political correctness and everything to do with SALES. That's the bottom line. Ford can't afford to make a vehicle for a small group of buyers that doesn't make money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris Kolman Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 (edited) Do you take off your mirrors before going into the garage? I pulled the width numbers that I thought best represented the real-world. Ford was nice enough to post the width and without mirror numbers... Chevy only said "overall width" that I assumed to be everything. As for the Tahoe being thin... Actually the latest Explorer were made very wide. I think it was a move to increase interior space, particularly the 3rd row which is quite roomy. I understand the current sales situation no longer makes a bespoke Explorer platform. Although the ~4500 they sold in Sept was only exceeded by the Escape as far as SUVs and CUVs go. And Escape, F-Series, and Econoline as far as all trucks go. I don't have a problem with Ford decided to integrate the Explorer on a shared platform. My problem instead is that a car-derived FWD platform isn't the ideal choice. It would have been better if it was converted back to the Ranger platform, but that of course isn't a choice because the platform is ancient. Or even a US version of the Aussi Territory looks good, but then the US Falcon has only been dream. So I understand the choice of the D4, but I'm skeptical of the results. If only Ford had finished the F-100 or brought the Falcon over... Edited October 16, 2009 by Kris Kolman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Do you take off your mirrors before going into the garage? I pulled the width numbers that I thought best represented the real-world. Ford was nice enough to post the width and without mirror numbers... Chevy only said "overall width" that I assumed to be everything. As for the Tahoe being thin... Actually the latest Explorer were made very wide. I think it was a move to increase interior space, particularly the 3rd row which is quite roomy. The Tahoe's 79" is WITHOUT the mirrors included. http://www.thecarconnection.com/specificat...-ltz_dimensions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 (edited) If you guys are going to start arguing the width with/without side mirrors then perhaps comparing something like internal hip and shoulder widths is a better yard stick. It depends if your criterion is fitting into a garage or how much cabin room you have..... For example, Shoulder Hip Room: Expedition - 63"/60" Explorer - 59"/55" Territory - 61"/60" Makes you think that a D3 Explorer needs to have Territory like internal dimensions..... Edited October 17, 2009 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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