twintornados Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 No Fords...?? That means it can be posted here....right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlhm5 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Even this article is in denial of disruptive technology. Tesla is billions of years ahead of everyone and are about to launch products that are far ahead of anything out there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 All I think this proves is that if your the first one out the gate with a new tech...doesn't mean you be successful! 5 of the 10 cars on that list have had their makers go bankrupt or out of business... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Even this article is in denial of disruptive technology. Tesla is billions of years ahead of everyone and are about to launch products that are far ahead of anything out there. Cars have only been around for 120 +/- years. How can you determine that someone is "billions of years ahead" of someone else? Just how much technology could be developed in billions of years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Even this article is in denial of disruptive technology. Tesla is billions of years ahead of everyone and are about to launch products that are far ahead of anything out there. And not one of them is priced under $60,000. Yeah. They're about to take over the industry alright. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Even this article is in denial of disruptive technology. Tesla is billions of years ahead of everyone and are about to launch products that are far ahead of anything out there. Ah, "bricks" in expensive limited-run chassis: that's far ahead, for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlhm5 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Like I said, in denial of disruptive technology just like 2001 when Toyota introduced the Prius and gained a 10 year head start before anyone reacted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) Like I said, in denial of disruptive technology just like 2001 when Toyota introduced the Prius and gained a 10 year head start before anyone reacted. Again, where's this "10 year head start"? Ford is launching two EV's this year numbskull. Edited March 5, 2012 by NickF1011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Like I said, in denial of disruptive technology just like 2001 when Toyota introduced the Prius and gained a 10 year head start before anyone reacted. So it was 2011 "before anyone reacted"? When did Ford produce its first hybrid? You know, with the technology that Toyota licenced from Ford? Are you on drugs, or is it just brain damage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 So it was 2011 "before anyone reacted"? When did Ford produce its first hybrid? You know, with the technology that Toyota licenced from Ford? Are you on drugs, or is it just brain damage? diesel fumes........... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Electric cars date back 100 some years. Some assume that they were invented recently, duh, go look up auto history! And who really thinks the Prius was the "only Hybrid for 10 years"? Escape and Fusion 'brids have been out for 7. So many myopic greenies think that Priuses run on thin air and would cure cancer overnight. There are many other "green" vehicles, including small gasoline cars with near Zero emissions, and will not leave batteries in landfills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Even this article is in denial of disruptive technology. Tesla is billions of years ahead of everyone and are about to launch products that are far ahead of anything out there. If they're "billions of years ahead," why can't they do something as relatively simple as keeping their parasitic systems from draining the batteries and leaving their owners with a $40k battery replacement bill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 If they're "billions of years ahead," why can't they do something as relatively simple as keeping their parasitic systems from draining the batteries and leaving their owners with a $40k battery replacement bill? Now you know why it's called Disruptive Technology. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBirdStangSkyliner Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Even this article is in denial of disruptive technology. Tesla is billions of years ahead of everyone and are about to launch products that are far ahead of anything out there. My goodness, what a seemingly naive or biased statement. Tesla's technology is far away from cutting edge. There have been electric motors and controllers of equal or greater technology manufactured in Germany and other countries for maybe a decade. The battery technology is basically banks or bricks of cell phone batteries. Eco-Boost with CGI is way ahead of this in my books. Infact, I'd happily take a B-Max EcoBoost, even without the CGI, over any current EV. I'd have greater practicality and life-cycle economy, and a lower life-cycle environmental footprint. By the way, heavy metal contamination is really persistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcwg Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 saw this list its a bunch of bs not practial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron W. Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 diesel fumes........... Ahhh, St. Peter Ford on a winter morning with the service department doors closed. Miss those days and the fumes, I love the smell of diesel in the morning...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Like I said, in denial of disruptive technology just like 2001 when Toyota introduced the Prius and gained a 10 year head start before anyone reacted. I'm still waiting for Toyota to offer a Prius running on steam power using "clean coal." I would like a dollar for everytime Obama has used "clean coal" in a sentence. I would be a frickin' millonaire by now. Btw, the locomotive industry (EMD and GE) have been building "hybrid" engines for over 60 years and have gone from about 1500 hp engines in the 50's to over 6,000+ hp today using basically same engine design. A coal drag train pulls about 7 million pounds of weight on hybrid/electromotive power only. Enough built up kinetic energy to power a thermonuclear weapon at speeds of about 50 mph. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Btw, the locomotive industry (EMD and GE) have been building "hybrid" engines for over 60 years IIRC, they've been diesel-electric hybrid locomotives for the better part of a century; they've at least been doing it since the '30s. The US Navy's WWII submarines were diesel-electric hybrids, with the diesel mills acting only as generators for the batteries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 IIRC, they've been diesel-electric hybrid locomotives for the better part of a century; they've at least been doing it since the '30s. The US Navy's WWII submarines were diesel-electric hybrids, with the diesel mills acting only as generators for the batteries. I don't think hybrid is the correct term since those can only be propelled by electrical power. The ICE does not provide propulsion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 The US Navy's WWII submarines were diesel-electric hybrids, with the diesel mills acting only as generators for the batteries. Not quite the same thing, Diesel Electric subs can run on either or...as long as the submarine is surfaced (or snorkeled) with diesel of course Batteries on subs only last a couple hours... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Not quite the same thing, Diesel Electric subs can run on either or...as long as the submarine is surfaced (or snorkeled) with diesel of course Batteries on subs only last a couple hours... Nope--the diesels were only generators, at least in the fleet boats. The screws were turned by electric motors fed by the batteries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Nope--the diesels were only generators, at least in the fleet boats. The screws were turned by electric motors fed by the batteries. IIRC, Gato-class boats used Fairbanks-Morse diesels, just like F-M diesel railroad locomotives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 IIRC, Gato-class boats used Fairbanks-Morse diesels, just like F-M diesel railroad locomotives. Either the Gatos or Balaos (maybe both). One or two of the books I've read that were written by Silent Service officers complained about how they were initially stuck with (what they termed) inferior diesels while the F-M mills were going to the railroads. I think most of the autobiographies I read were of officers on Balao-class boats, but it has been a few years. The name Harder sticks in my mind for some reason, and she was a Gato, so who knows. I'll have to check my bookshelf. FWIW, I'd assumed that the boats could run on either electric or direct-diesel power; it was one of those books that educated me on their real powertrain configurations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 To the nerd going ape-shit about the Tesla being 'billions of years ahead'' Well, one broke down at a CR test, they cost $100,000, and the company is near bankrupt. How the hell is that 'advanced'? Make it sound as if they are the 'only' maker of e-cars, they cost $19.999, never need a recharge, and will run forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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