Xbar Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) They doing this to get comparison results? Maybe to set a benchmark for the US model?? http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2015/12/10/ford-caught-testing-midsize-american-market-pickups-at-secret-australian/ Edited December 13, 2015 by Xbar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Put a manual transmission in it and a super cab and I'll buy one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Considering that the "world" Ranger was engineered in Australia, it makes perfect sense that the Aussies would be doing most of the legwork to get the U.S. version ready for market. And it's not unusual to benchmark the competition. Everybody does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Put a manual transmission in it and a super cab and I'll buy one Already done both... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Put a manual transmission in it ... Highly unlikely ! ...and a super cab and I'll buy one Highly likely ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Considering that the "world" Ranger was engineered in Australia, it makes perfect sense that the Aussies would be doing most of the legwork to get the U.S. version ready for market. And it's not unusual to benchmark the competition. Everybody does. Just remember, when EU got the nod to do the "world" Transit redesign, they lost a whole year because they could not meet US crash standards. US engineers had to be brought in to "tweak" the design. I have low confidence that the Aussies can complete the design changes without US assistance, Most of the worldwide powertrain calibration/emission has been done in Dearborn since about 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Already done both... Oops, I meant the one with 4 full size doors. I know the Canyorado has it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Oops, I meant the one with 4 full size doors. I know the Canyorado has it. That would be a super crew not a super cab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 That would be a super crew not a super cab. Ugh, it's so hard to keep all the different names straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Just remember, when EU got the nod to do the "world" Transit redesign, they lost a whole year because they could not meet US crash standards. US engineers had to be brought in to "tweak" the design. I have low confidence that the Aussies can complete the design changes without US assistance, Most of the worldwide powertrain calibration/emission has been done in Dearborn since about 2008.This is not Ford Australia design and development you remember,Ford Asia Pacific projects like Ranger and Everest were headed up by US project supervisors hand picked by Dearborn with lots of experience. There have been well over 1500 engineering staff employed at Geelong since around 2007, just after kickoff on T6 Ranger, their latest effort after Everest Was the Chinese Taurus.r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Just remember, when EU got the nod to do the "world" Transit redesign, they lost a whole year because they could not meet US crash standards. US engineers had to be brought in to "tweak" the design. I have low confidence that the Aussies can complete the design changes without US assistance, Most of the worldwide powertrain calibration/emission has been done in Dearborn since about 2008. So would this include the 7L Duratorque diesel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 This is not Ford Australia design and development you remember, Ford Asia Pacific projects like Ranger and Everest were headed up by US project supervisors hand picked by Dearborn with lots of experience. There have been well over 1500 engineering staff employed at Geelong since around 2007, just after kickoff on T6 Ranger, their latest effort after Everest Was the Chinese Taurus.r Geelong designed several vehicles since it was re-grouped as APAC design center. Original Figo (India) Ranger (Worldwide) Escort (China) Everest (Worldwide) Taurus (China) I think there was also a couple of projects that got cancelled after starting, for example, a cab forward van and truck replacement for Econovan. Evidently, Ford gave up on that project in favor of just importing the Transit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) Yeah at one stage they were working on four projects at one time, they also do work outside FAP on behalf of other regions as well as localisation for Australia. and let's also not forget the design for Ford GT came from an Aussie too.. As a foot note, Two T6 Ranger mules were built years ago with 2.0 EB / 6-speed auto as attribute prototypes for Falcon Ecoboost, I wonder if that development work smooths the way for delivering a better gasoline variant than the current 2.5 TiVCT.. Edited December 16, 2015 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydro Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 They better hurry with the build. I need a mid size truck by Dec 2017. As of right now GMC and Tacoma are in my crosshairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 (edited) They better hurry with the build. I need a mid size truck by Dec 2017. As of right now GMC and Tacoma are in my crosshairs. Hey Hydro, looks like the timing is out for you getting a Ranger but if you're interested, The Ranger is sold in Mexico, maybe one just over the border from you to go take a look at. I think they're only 2.5 petrol down there but they do come with crew cab... Guys Can you gray import into USA from Mexico or are there strong laws in place to stop that? I'm thinking that NAFTA might help... Edited December 18, 2015 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 (edited) I'm thinking that NAFTA might help... Tariffs (which is what NAFTA really affects) aren't the problem; the vehicle has to be Federalized--it has to be certified to meet Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards and Federal Emissions regulations. There used ot be loopholes that were used to bring in one-off exotics (there were a few notable Porsches, IIRC), but I think those were closed several years ago. It's almost certainly going to be prohibitively expensive to do it for something like a Ranger. Edited December 18, 2015 by SoonerLS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) You can private import vehicle to the US if it falls under any of the 4 categories: 1. Vehicle on the DOT approved non-compliant list - you would need to hire someone to make it conform to US FMVSS. http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/elig120115.pdf 2. Vehicles on the DOT show and display list - you are only allows to drive the car for a very limited number of miles per year (I think 1,000 miles?) http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/sdlistoctober222014.pdf 3. Vehicle that is under 25 years old and has a letter from its manufacturer that states it meets US FMVSS. Example: http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjM2/z/llgAAOSw~gRVwLw9/$_57.JPG 4. Vehicle that is over 25 years old. T6 Ranger doesn't meet FMVSS (as far as I known) so someone would have to spend money to modify it and submit it to NHTSA to get on the approved non-compliant list (#1). No one is crazy enough to do that yet. It's also unlikely that Ford will issue you a FMVSS letter if you want to bring your Mexican Ranger to the US. Edited December 19, 2015 by bzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) Thanks guys, I thought there had to be laws in place to stop people doing an end run around Emission and safety laws, otherwise we would see a lot more gray imports into the USA. Edited December 19, 2015 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 There's a guy here in Chicago that has/had a Mk2 Focus RS from Mexico. I know I saw a story on how he got it here, but can't find it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Heres a Jalopnik story about that Focus there is a Focus Fanatics thread on it too. I've seen it in person (parked on the street) twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I have no doubt that a Crew Cab ranger fitted with a 2.3 Ecoboost engine would be a huge success and, like the current Explorer, have a highway fuel economy figure of 28 mpg...significantly more than F150. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 28 is only 2 more than the 26 on the F150. Though I think they may have been revised to 24 for 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 around town I would expect the 2.3 to drink a LOT lees than any f150 configuration along with stop and go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 There's a guy here in Chicago that has/had a Mk2 Focus RS from Mexico. I know I saw a story on how he got it here, but can't find it now. All the Focus RS in the US (there are several) came from Mexico and they all have FMVSS letter from Ford. See the link in my previous post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) 28 is only 2 more than the 26 on the F150. Though I think they may have been revised to 24 for 2016. Ah but the difference is that the majority of F150s sold are rated around 22 to 23 mpg. If Ford was to federalize the 2.2 I-4 diesel it would get 30 mpg easy, maybe a bit more.. Edited December 22, 2015 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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