BORG Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) I've just noticed that Lincoln no longer lists the Lincoln MKT on it's media page, it's no longer brought to the AutoShows, and they have not been assembling any since November 2015 with no 2016 MY MKT. Customers are no longer able to factory order the MKT either. However, Flex continues. Has Lincoln quietly and unceremoniously pulled the plug or am I misreading the tea leaves? So yeah, I'm a little surprised we didn't get a press release or something. Edited March 15, 2016 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 It was at the Atlanta auto show last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pffan1990 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 It's possible that Lincoln has relegated the MKT as a fleet-only vehicle for the livery market. Like the previous Town Car for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Its still on the Lincoln site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Its still on the Lincoln site. Only the '15 model, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Does anyone believe the MKT could be updated enough to be a stopgap until the Explorer base replacement comes? Perhaps they can put the new style front clip from the continental and then restyle the rear of the vehicle. For me the rear of the vehicle is what ruins it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 It could be but not sure the extra few sales would cover the cost of the facelift. Especially if there isn't any excess capacity in the plant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) At the start of March, Inventory was low with 1.300 cars total and around 775 of them at dealers. I'm thinking that MKT and Flex production has given way to more Edge and MKX production at Oakville. Much the same way that Taurus and MKS have given over production space to Explorer. A lot of the GM extremists fail to grasp that change in product mix is both possible and desirable. Previously, the Livery market has shown a distinct dislike for MKT and in fact, chosen Navigator over MKT so much that Ford switched Livery sales to MKS and makes Semi finished LWB versions for Limo converters. Edited March 17, 2016 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) Didn't Ford roll out the Livery MKS at the same time as the MkTowncar? I've seen a ton of MkTowncars, they seem popular as airport limos. Edited March 17, 2016 by sullynd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 (edited) I did a quick filter on the 700 odd MKT available at dealerships nationally, the surprising part was that most of them are high priced examples 34K-37K 2 37K-40K 6 40K-45K 60 45K-50K 193 50K-55K 303 55K-60K 148 60K-62K 2 So if that national dealer stock is indicative of the sales mix then no wonder why Ford is keeping the MKT around Just imagine a great looking Aviator in that slot selling five or six times as many with that sales and price mix. Edited March 18, 2016 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 I did a quick filter on the 700 odd MKT available at dealerships nationally, the surprising part was that most of them are high priced examples 34K-37K 2 37K-40K 6 40K-45K 60 45K-50K 193 50K-55K 303 55K-60K 148 60K-62K 2 So if that national dealer stock is indicative of the sales mix then no wonder why Ford is keeping the MKT around Just imagine a great looking Aviator in that slot selling five or six times as many with that sales and price mix. tho want to draw a compari$on of an Aviator/Continental to an MKX/MKZ where the Cuv starts a few hundred higher than the sedan BUT (per my numbers from last August) could top-out several THou$and higher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted April 15, 2016 Author Share Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) What is the national inventory like now, I see my regional inventory is down to 44. Still no 2016 model and none built since 2015 and you can't order a new one from the factory. I think it's safe to say this car is dead. Edited April 15, 2016 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 It's still unfortunate they didn't give this a minor refresh to fix some of its stylistic shortcomings. I think consumers would have responded to improved looks. It certainly could have competed with the Infinity QX60, and gave Lincoln another vehicle to sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 All those resources were spent on the new MKC, MKX and Continental. Probably a wise decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) And yet, when I do a price filter search of dealer stock, MKT average selling price is up around $55K (above) Sure sales are slow but I wonder how much of that is purely because the style is not inviting to enough customers, how about for its last 18 months -2 years, a small refresh with a Navigator/Continental front and see how we go.... Edited April 16, 2016 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) What is the national inventory like now, I see my regional inventory is down to 44. Still no 2016 model and none built since 2015 and you can't order a new one from the factory. I think it's safe to say this car is dead. April 1 inventory of Lincoln MKS ....1,900 (66 Days) MKZ .....8,100 (88 Days) Total Lincoln car ..10,000 (83 Days) MKC .....6,900 (95 Days) MKT .....1,400 (97 Days) MKX ....12,500 (122 Days) Navigator...4,400 (91 Days) Total Lincoln trk. ......25,200 (106 Days) Total Lincoln ............35,200 (98 Days) Edited April 16, 2016 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted April 16, 2016 Author Share Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) MKT is coasting on inventory built up before the end of last year, this must be their way of quietly phasing it out from retail. I wonder if they are still taking livery or fleet orders. Essentially, if you walk into a Lincoln dealership right now, you can't buy an MKT or order one unless it's the 1 or 2 they have rotting in the back corner. Edited April 16, 2016 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) MKT is coasting on inventory built up before the end of last year, this must be their way of quietly phasing it out from retail. I wonder if they are still taking livery or fleet orders. Essentially, if you walk into a Lincoln dealership right now, you can't buy an MKT or order one unless it's the 1 or 2 they have rotting in the back corner. MKT Production - 2016 (2015) March 483 (538) Q1 1,089 (874) Edited April 16, 2016 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) Curious that Continental's wheelbase is 117.9", the same as MKT and certain other internal dimensions are close too.. Link to Continental brochure..........dimensions on page 2 Have we been looking in the wrong direction........ EXTERIOR (in.) Length 201.4 Wheelbase 117.9 Width – Mirrors folded 78.1 Height 58.5 INTERIOR (in.) Front Head room 39.3 Leg room (max.) 44.4 Hip room 55.9 Shoulder room 58.3 INTERIOR (in.) Rear Head room 37.7 Leg room 41.3 Hip room 54.8 Shoulder room 55.9 Edited April 17, 2016 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Here's the fleet card for the 2017 MKT. It receives a horizontal slat grille. Also looks to get a new gauge cluster (center speedo surrounded by 2 screens) and steering wheel. http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/brochures/2017/2017%20Lincoln%20MKT.pdf (there's a second page at the link showing colors, dimensions, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Nice update, and I am glad they didn't try to graft the Continental grille onto the existing coachwork....would've looked dumb in my opinion. The horizontal wing grille fits the existing design. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Nice update, and I am glad they didn't try to graft the Continental grille onto the existing coachwork....would've looked dumb in my opinion. The horizontal wing grille fits the existing design. Yeah it obviously won't do a ton for sales, but it does look better than the existing grille, and brings it in line with the rest of the crossover lineup until it's dropped (at which point the other crossovers switch to the new grille too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) Yeah it obviously won't do a ton for sales, but it does look better than the existing grille, and brings it in line with the rest of the crossover lineup until it's dropped (at which point the other crossovers switch to the new grille too). . Now the only question remains is can I retro-fit the new horizontal slat grille onto my 2011 MKX? PS: The horizontal slat grille worked wonders for Navigator sales...just sayin'. Edited April 18, 2016 by twintornados Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotdog14 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Here's the fleet card for the 2017 MKT. It receives a horizontal slat grille. Also looks to get a new gauge cluster (center speedo surrounded by 2 screens) and steering wheel. http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/brochures/2017/2017%20Lincoln%20MKT.pdf (there's a second page at the link showing colors, dimensions, etc. Is that a pie in the center console? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 The gage cluser looks similar to what is in the Taurus, outside of the design of the speedo, which is just electronic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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