MY93SHO Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Looks like the 3.5EB in the F150 is 375HP/470TQ http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/the-2017-ford-f-150s-3-5l-ecoboost-actually-makes-more-1783444285 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) Ford was sandbagging again....pretty impressive! I fixed your title too...so we don't get multiple posts Edited July 11, 2016 by silvrsvt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpvbs Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 That puts it 10lb/ft ahead of the 6.2l GM V8. How much more does GM have to give with the LS other than going to more displacement. I'm sure they could do the typical hotrodding things, but that typically means it narrows the power band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Ford was sandbagging again....pretty impressive! I fixed your title too...so we don't get multiple posts Well if the 10 2018 Expy' threads are any indication it's not going to help 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpvbs Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 These guys said an insider told them to expect nearly 500hp and more than 1000 lb/ft from the 2017 6.7 Powerstroke. Pretty crazy if that is true. http://www.tfltruck.com/2016/07/2017-ford-super-duty-to-have-nearly-500-hp-and-over-1000-lb-ft-of-torque-unconfirmed/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Ford was running a higher tune then 500/1000 last year in the 6.7. It should be close to it but will be class leading. Just wait till the 10 speed hits the 6.7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Would be nice to get that HP above the 400HP in the smaller 3.0T at Lincoln, but I understand trucks need torque more than raw HP numbers. It also means there won't be a need for that engine in other applications outside of RWD and Trucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 http://www.autoblog.com/2016/07/11/2017-ford-f-150-ecoboost-v6-power-rating-official/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Sub 5 second 0-60 time? Just wonder what the Raptor is going to have, 500/500 or 450/500? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) Sub 5 second 0-60 time? Just wonder what the Raptor is going to have, 500/500 or 450/500? Didn't Raj Nair spill the beans already - 450HP. There's a lot of latitude between 375 HP and 630 HP in Ford GT.... I wonder if Explorer and PIU get the updated 3.5 EB power and torque there may be an opportunity to gap competitors even further. Edited July 12, 2016 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Kat Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 The question begs, has Ford delivered a top choice engine with the fuel economy of a mid level engine? Does the new gen EB 3.5 powered aluminum bodied F150 beat the 6.2 GM 1500 offering in the fuel economy wars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 The question begs, has Ford delivered a top choice engine with the fuel economy of a mid level engine? Does the new gen EB 3.5 powered aluminum bodied F150 beat the 6.2 GM 1500 offering in the fuel economy wars? Well, since the old 3.5L with the 6 speed did, I'm pretty confident that the new 3.5L with the 10 speed will do even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) The question begs, has Ford delivered a top choice engine with the fuel economy of a mid level engine? Does the new gen EB 3.5 powered aluminum bodied F150 beat the 6.2 GM 1500 offering in the fuel economy wars? GM 6.2 8AT 4x2 and 4x4 = 21 mpg EB 3.5 6AT 4x2 = 24 mpg EB 3.5 6AT 4x4 = 22 mpg Edited July 12, 2016 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Kat Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Wow, I didn't realize Ford was gapping GM like that in fuel economy. The 10 speed should help even more. I still say Ford is the only one of the "Big 3" that is already on it's way to meeting new EPA and CAFE regs to be in full effect by 2025. Looks to me like GM, FCA and maybe Toyota need a full revamp of their strategies to meet those impending standards. Ford could be 5 years to a decade ahead of the competition in many ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) And, see, on that Autoblog post, there was a text-wall comment about how come the 3.5EB was "less impressive" than GM's 6.2. Talked about how the Escalade was much faster 0-60 (higher HP will do that) and more efficient "in the real world" (whose real world, though?). If anything, statements like those show how the newer powertrain (LT1 + 8AT) is usually incrementally more impressive than the older technology for a little while. For a little while. Edited July 12, 2016 by papilgee4evaeva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 And, see, on that Autoblog post, there was a text-wall comment about how come the 3.5EB was "less impressive" than GM's 6.2. Talked about how the Escalade was much faster 0-60 (higher HP will do that) and more efficient "in the real world" (whose real world, though?). If anything, statements like those show how the newer powertrain (LT1 + 8AT) is usually incrementally more impressive than the older technology for a little while. For a little while. It also shows that GM fanbois will be fanbois no matter what. And yes, Ford fanbois do the same. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 It also shows that GM fanbois will be fanbois no matter what. And yes, Ford fanbois do the same. True story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme4x4 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 If you drive a EB like you would a V8, you will probably be less than impressed with the engine. If you drive a V8 as you would an EB, same thing. Novel idea, but maybe folks should drive each to their strengths. I know, I know, silly me. My Explorer Sport has always exceeded the EPA ratings. Yet, I am basically called a liar from those who hate the engine. Yep, that is me................. lying for the last 62K miles. :D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 If you drive a EB like you would a V8, you will probably be less than impressed with the engine. If you drive a V8 as you would an EB, same thing. Novel idea, but maybe folks should drive each to their strengths. I know, I know, silly me. My Explorer Sport has always exceeded the EPA ratings. Yet, I am basically called a liar from those who hate the engine. Yep, that is me................. lying for the last 62K miles. :D Liar! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 If you drive a EB like you would a V8, you will probably be less than impressed with the engine. If you drive a V8 as you would an EB, same thing. Novel idea, but maybe folks should drive each to their strengths. I know, I know, silly me. My Explorer Sport has always exceeded the EPA ratings. Yet, I am basically called a liar from those who hate the engine. Yep, that is me................. lying for the last 62K miles. :D Liar! Fangirl! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Wow, I didn't realize Ford was gapping GM like that in fuel economy. Yeah, GM beats Ford, I think, 5.0 vs. 5.3 or something similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Yeah, GM beats Ford, I think, 5.0 vs. 5.3 or something similar. Then we'll put the 10AT with the 5.0L eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Then we'll put the 10AT with the 5.0L eventually. The whole lineup gets it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 The whole lineup gets it When does GM get their version in the Silverado, not for months I hope... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 When does GM get their version in the Silverado, not for months I hope... Some models of the Silverado have an 8 speed transmission already... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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