PREMiERdrum Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I think a 4-door is a given, but a 2-Door is up for debate. Didn't Fuzzy confirm a 2-door? May as well take that to the bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 So if Ford can produce a more polished Wrangler that looks as bad-ass and iconic as a Wrangler (and not a box on roller-skates like the original Bronco), then I'll be thrilled. You need your eyes be checked.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 You need your eyes be checked.... Just take your rose colored glasses off and you'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostic Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 You need your eyes be checked.... I read this with a pirate accent. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 Just take your rose colored glasses off and you'll be fine. No need...got LASIK 10 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 If true, don't get your hopes up on removable anything. (take with an entire shaker of salt) http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/alleged-ford-designer-drops-juicy-details-on-new-bronco-1791025337 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 If true, don't get your hopes up on removable anything. (take with an entire shaker of salt) http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/alleged-ford-designer-drops-juicy-details-on-new-bronco-1791025337 As for styling, when asked if the new Bronco would take cues from Broncos of yore, the Redditor said “Not really, both vehicles will be based on current production models,” referring to the SUV and the new Ranger. Now THAT I don't believe at all. No way Ford would bring back a Bronco and make it look like an Everest. I'm calling Shenanigans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) Here's the Reddit AMA mentioned: https://www.reddit.com/r/fordranger/comments/5n1qxp/i_am_a_designer_at_ford_motor_company_product/Some of his answers (again not verified by Ford or anyone): Most are answers re: the Ranger, but some Bronco stuff. I hear what you are saying. This truck will be a competitor to the Colorado. Our design team does not have the autonomy to change the hood, companies have already been contracted to produce the current design of most body panels. The new truck will be a facelifted T6. Our biggest consideration is preventing cannibalism of sales from the F-150.Unfortunately, it will never resemble 4th-Gen Rangers. We have done extensive market research and that size of truck will simply not be profitable. By 2011 the Ranger's sales were being entirely propped up by fleet purchases, same as the Crown Victoria. People smarter than me that get paid more than me have made all of these decisions already, and I say this with a heavy heart, as a 4th-gen owner myself. Drivetrain combinations have not been finalized, we are watching the sales of the diesel Colorado and also are monitoring the fallout from Volkswagen's Dieselgate. The main problem is we are worried that a light truck like this with a diesel engine would be associated with the SUVs that VW put their TDI into. We expect the combinations to be finalized by this next year's Auto Show here in Detroit. It will be an Americanized version of what you have in Australia. .....It will be a facelifted T6 We're working on a few different designs for market testing! One does resemble the F-150. We are benchmarking the Wrangler Unlimited for design considerations on the Bronco, but the doors/roof/windshield won't move. There's lots of OJ jokes around the office here but I have a feeling the marketing guys will be trying to avoid him Both vehicles will likely have similar off road capabilities in their off-road oriented trim level. One of our most important considerations is to prevent one vehicle from cannibalizing sales from another vehicle in the Ford lineup. This is why the Bronco will take an extra year to be released, we're having a bit of a tough time fitting it into the SUV lineup, which by 2020 will have 6 other SUVs already. It's unlikely that it will be termed "Raptor" and it won't be quite as capable as the Raptor, but there will be an off road-oriented trim. Super Cab will have the 6' bed, Crew Cab will have the 5' bed. The main body of it will look identical to what it is now. We are authorized to change the headlights, grille, and front fascia for a facelift. We may be allowed to modify the fenders if interest in the vehicle explodes, but as of right now we can't do that. No, the body will be reinforced to meet crash test standards, the interior will be completely redone for the U.S. Market, and the drivetrain combinations will be unique for North America. Edited January 10, 2017 by Anthony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I also don't believe a Ford designer would do such a thing publicly - even if it's misinformation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Pretty much all of his answers can be faked just by reading forums and having some background on T6, I would not put much faith in it, but worth a read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I also don't believe a Ford designer would do such a thing publicly - even if it's misinformation. Yeah, I read elsewhere that this same person said that the Bronco was just a refreshed Everest. I don't believe that at all, and would be a waste of bringing back the name if that's all it is. I just can't see them going through all the effort of reintroducing both of these for them to be just minor refreshes of the existing vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Joe Hinrichs said yesterday it (Ranger) will be "all new" Plus the bits about the Bronco directly contradicts what I've heard. I trust my source way more. I'm calling shenanigans as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 my bet is there will be 2 and four door variants....the Ranger will be Regular cab, Supercab and Crew cab...so theres potentially the two different wheelbases...perhaps 3... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Didn't Fuzzy confirm a 2-door? May as well take that to the bank. I confirmed 4-door. To my knowledge 2-door is still up in the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) Joe Hinrichs said yesterday it (Ranger) will be "all new" Plus the bits about the Bronco directly contradicts what I've heard. I trust my source way more. I'm calling shenanigans as well At the moment, T6 Ranger's interior dimensions are close to Gen 1 Explorer Sportrac and I'm wondering if the next Ranger grows slightly to the same size as Gen 2 Sportrac. In that situation, the companion, Bronco would then be similar size to the last BOF Explorer and letting Ford come more or less full circle.. Edited January 10, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Joe Hinrichs said yesterday it (Ranger) will be "all new" Plus the bits about the Bronco directly contradicts what I've heard. I trust my source way more. I'm calling shenanigans as well To be fair, "all new" can be an exercise in semantics, as technically, even if it came as is, it would be "all new" to the US/NA market......but I still don't believe that will be the case (that it is indeed completely new). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 In that situation, the companion, Bronco would then be similar size to the last BOF Explorer 1st Gen Explorer: 184.3 in IRS Gen Explorer: 193.4 in Ford Everest 192.6 inches I'm thinking 190 inches overall lenth will be the sweetspot for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 To be fair, "all new" can be an exercise in semantics, as technically, even if it came as is, it would be "all new" to the US/NA market......but I still don't believe that will be the case (that it is indeed completely new). True, I hear dealers advertising the "all new" 2017 F-150 all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) Joe Hinrichs said yesterday it (Ranger) will be "all new" Plus the bits about the Bronco directly contradicts what I've heard. I trust my source way more. I'm calling shenanigans as well Depends how you interpret "all new". Is it all new as compared to the current T6 or just all new to the US market? IIRC the motorauthority.com article said they were updating the T6 platform, whatever that means. They also stated that the Everest would have a longer wheelbase than the Bronco. My personal preference for the Ranger would be to keep the current size but update the styling to look more like the 2018 F-150. Square up the shoulders a bit maybe. If they did something like that maybe the Bronco and Ranger could even share some sheetmetal and still have a retro Bronco look. Edit: I hear an echo in here. You guys type too fast for me. LOL. Edited January 10, 2017 by blksn8k2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 My personal preference for the Ranger would be to keep the current size but update the styling to look more like the 2018 F-150. Square up the shoulders a bit maybe. If they did something like that maybe the Bronco and Ranger could even share some sheetmetal and still have a retro Bronco look. Edit: I hear an echo in here. You guys type too fast for me. LOL. IMO the current Ranger and even the Colorado are "too soft" styling wise for a Pickup. I'm going to assume the Ranger will get the new F-series grill and new headlights, which should help fix that problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jqa1824 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I disagree. I think one of the problems that the last generation (04-05) midsize tricks failed was that they had too similar styling as the full size trucks. They had the same "feel." What I like about Chevys tricks is that the Silverado is convervative, handsome, and serious looking, while the Colorado looks less conservative, sporty, and more "fun." I hope the 2020 Ranger is similar....like how the 1998 Ranger looked like the F-150's spunkier, more fun little buddy. Kinda like Robin to Batman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Oh for the luv of milk duds and movie popcorn we dont want a damn 4 door bronc...talk about a buzz kill...manual lockouts, dana 300, ford 9inch in back, dana 44 up front and a real transmission and not that crappy dct or whatever ford uses and it will have some use..it dont need no damn 10inch lectro whizzer bang stuff either like some gosh awful connectivity crap to a kremlin orbiting satellite..if it rusts as fast as the real broncs prior to 78 that will be a huge plus too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 we dont want a damn 4 door bronc... You may not but the majority of actual buyers do. Just look at Wrangler sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Did anyone notice that the "designer" on reddit.com claims he works in Dearborn? I thought design and engineering were being done in the land down under? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Did anyone notice that the "designer" on reddit.com claims he works in Dearborn? I thought design and engineering were being done in the land down under? No, it is being designed in MI.. that's how my contact saw the pictures from one of the designers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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